Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: What is the 'tax cuts for billionaires' that you seem worried about? Trump 2017 tax act delivered one of the largest tax cuts for the super rich in US history. Richest 0.1% of Americans received a tax cut 277 times larger than that of middle class households. Adding billions to federal deficits while failing to increase economic growth. Now greedy billionaires want to preserve their massive windfall. Due to decades of tax cuts, there isn't enough revenue for US investment needs and social programs. However extending dangerous tax cuts would do more damage. All nonsense So you don¡¯t think it¡¯s time to start rethinking economic regulations. Or make a tax code where it is comprehensible to a layman. ? It wouldn¡¯t be hard! Why don¡¯t Republicans like Musk, & Trump stand on there bully pulpit and tell there minions these changes make the system crystal clear and they will know for sure that everyone is paying their fair share of taxes!
No. I am saying all of the stuff that was posted in that post is obvious Leftist talking points and has nothing to do with what I was addressing to you.
That user just does that to try to swerve the topic to other issues to try to avoid a losing stance.
The whole idea of tax-cuts has been addressed many, many times elsewhere. That posted is wrong about it and always has been.
The questions you just asked about that particular post has nothing at all to do with what was said.
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@joe pockets
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets:
Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: What is the 'tax cuts for billionaires' that you seem worried about? Trump 2017 tax act delivered one of the largest tax cuts for the super rich in US history. Richest 0.1% of Americans received a tax cut 277 times larger than that of middle class households. Adding billions to federal deficits while failing to increase economic growth. Now greedy billionaires want to preserve their massive windfall. Due to decades of tax cuts, there isn't enough revenue for US investment needs and social programs. However extending dangerous tax cuts would do more damage. All nonsense So you don¡¯t think it¡¯s time to start rethinking economic regulations. Or make a tax code where it is comprehensible to a layman. ? It wouldn¡¯t be hard! Why don¡¯t Republicans like Musk, & Trump stand on there bully pulpit and tell there minions these changes make the system crystal clear and they will know for sure that everyone is paying their fair share of taxes!
No. I am saying all of the stuff that was posted in that post is obvious Leftist talking points and has nothing to do with what I was addressing to you.
That user just does that to try to swerve the topic to other issues to try to avoid a losing stance.
The whole idea of tax-cuts has been addressed many, many times elsewhere. That posted is wrong about it and always has been.
The questions you just asked about that particular post has nothing at all to do with what was said.
Well if you are lumping me into some left group you are quite wrong with this summary. Ive disliked Musk for a very very long time and long before this Trump scheme. I find Musk to be an abusive, condescending loud mouth who has built his fortune off the federal government and treats his employees like trash. I dont care which political side he is on my points are not about a political party rather that the conflict of interest he has disqualifies him from any government interaction and he is the last person who should be giving financial analysis to anyone, including pitching annuities to senior citizens.
The concept of carbon credits might have merit as it is meant to motivate carbon producers to either find ways to minimize their impact or pay for polluting the environment with carbon. The fact these were given to a company who should not receive them and that he sells them to other companies AND that these credits are a substantial percentage of his profits and thus his stock price and thus his net worth is absurd. Then you add on federal tax credits and then you add on ZIRP and there you have my summary. Musk has built BILLIONS in fortune squarely off the back of the taxpayer and the federal government. There is no example that exists of another individual who has bilked the government for the quantity of wealth that Musk has. Bezos locked away operating losses to offset future tax liability but he did not have ZIRP, Musk did AND operating losses, AND carbon credits AND a federal tax credit for cars AND solar panel install...AND he has been able to exploit operating in China, producing parts and vehicles to escape tariffs. The guy is a scammer period, and I would say the same if he were considered for Biden or Harris or Obama to slash government spending.
Before you summarize me it is best to know me, dont lump me into your partisan nonsense especially when the bulk of my contention is NOT partisan.
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@BigGame90
Well if you are lumping me into some left group you are quite wrong with this summary. Ive disliked Musk for a very very long time and long before this Trump scheme. I find Musk to be an abusive, condescending loud mouth who has built his fortune off the federal government and treats his employees like trash. I dont care which political side he is on my points are not about a political party rather that the conflict of interest he has disqualifies him from any government interaction and he is the last person who should be giving financial analysis to anyone, including pitching annuities to senior citizens.
The concept of carbon credits might have merit as it is meant to motivate carbon producers to either find ways to minimize their impact or pay for polluting the environment with carbon. The fact these were given to a company who should not receive them and that he sells them to other companies AND that these credits are a substantial percentage of his profits and thus his stock price and thus his net worth is absurd. Then you add on federal tax credits and then you add on ZIRP and there you have my summary. Musk has built BILLIONS in fortune squarely off the back of the taxpayer and the federal government. There is no example that exists of another individual who has bilked the government for the quantity of wealth that Musk has. Bezos locked away operating losses to offset future tax liability but he did not have ZIRP, Musk did AND operating losses, AND carbon credits AND a federal tax credit for cars AND solar panel install...AND he has been able to exploit operating in China, producing parts and vehicles to escape tariffs. The guy is a scammer period, and I would say the same if he were considered for Biden or Harris or Obama to slash government spending.
Before you summarize me it is best to know me, dont lump me into your partisan nonsense especially when the bulk of my contention is NOT partisan.
@joe pockets Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: What is the 'tax cuts for billionaires' that you seem worried about? Trump 2017 tax act delivered one of the largest tax cuts for the super rich in US history. Richest 0.1% of Americans received a tax cut 277 times larger than that of middle class households. Adding billions to federal deficits while failing to increase economic growth. Now greedy billionaires want to preserve their massive windfall. Due to decades of tax cuts, there isn't enough revenue for US investment needs and social programs. However extending dangerous tax cuts would do more damage. All nonsense So you don¡¯t think it¡¯s time to start rethinking economic regulations. Or make a tax code where it is comprehensible to a layman. ? It wouldn¡¯t be hard! Why don¡¯t Republicans like Musk, & Trump stand on there bully pulpit and tell there minions these changes make the system crystal clear and they will know for sure that everyone is paying their fair share of taxes! No. I am saying all of the stuff that was posted in that post is obvious Leftist talking points and has nothing to do with what I was addressing to you. That user just does that to try to swerve the topic to other issues to try to avoid a losing stance. The whole idea of tax-cuts has been addressed many, many times elsewhere. That posted is wrong about it and always has been. The questions you just asked about that particular post has nothing at all to do with what was said.
obvious Leftist talking points ! ¡¡And the rights rebuttal is we pay all the tax¡¯s but after loopholes, devaluation, depreciation, etc etc etc ¡Oh and how the next president does his by flat out lying and blame the accountant¡they pay zero in many cases ! ¡I think we¡¯ve been through this but again it not a talking point it fact!¡.Quite frankly it¡¯s insulting the fact is after all the Tax avoidance strategies a billionaire pays less percentage then a teacher or a manager at a Good year tire shop..Radier you know this!
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@joe pockets Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson: Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22: What is the 'tax cuts for billionaires' that you seem worried about? Trump 2017 tax act delivered one of the largest tax cuts for the super rich in US history. Richest 0.1% of Americans received a tax cut 277 times larger than that of middle class households. Adding billions to federal deficits while failing to increase economic growth. Now greedy billionaires want to preserve their massive windfall. Due to decades of tax cuts, there isn't enough revenue for US investment needs and social programs. However extending dangerous tax cuts would do more damage. All nonsense So you don¡¯t think it¡¯s time to start rethinking economic regulations. Or make a tax code where it is comprehensible to a layman. ? It wouldn¡¯t be hard! Why don¡¯t Republicans like Musk, & Trump stand on there bully pulpit and tell there minions these changes make the system crystal clear and they will know for sure that everyone is paying their fair share of taxes! No. I am saying all of the stuff that was posted in that post is obvious Leftist talking points and has nothing to do with what I was addressing to you. That user just does that to try to swerve the topic to other issues to try to avoid a losing stance. The whole idea of tax-cuts has been addressed many, many times elsewhere. That posted is wrong about it and always has been. The questions you just asked about that particular post has nothing at all to do with what was said.
obvious Leftist talking points ! ¡¡And the rights rebuttal is we pay all the tax¡¯s but after loopholes, devaluation, depreciation, etc etc etc ¡Oh and how the next president does his by flat out lying and blame the accountant¡they pay zero in many cases ! ¡I think we¡¯ve been through this but again it not a talking point it fact!¡.Quite frankly it¡¯s insulting the fact is after all the Tax avoidance strategies a billionaire pays less percentage then a teacher or a manager at a Good year tire shop..Radier you know this!
@BigGame90 Well if you are lumping me into some left group you are quite wrong with this summary. Ive disliked Musk for a very very long time and long before this Trump scheme. I find Musk to be an abusive, condescending loud mouth who has built his fortune off the federal government and treats his employees like trash. I dont care which political side he is on my points are not about a political party rather that the conflict of interest he has disqualifies him from any government interaction and he is the last person who should be giving financial analysis to anyone, including pitching annuities to senior citizens. The concept of carbon credits might have merit as it is meant to motivate carbon producers to either find ways to minimize their impact or pay for polluting the environment with carbon. The fact these were given to a company who should not receive them and that he sells them to other companies AND that these credits are a substantial percentage of his profits and thus his stock price and thus his net worth is absurd. Then you add on federal tax credits and then you add on ZIRP and there you have my summary. Musk has built BILLIONS in fortune squarely off the back of the taxpayer and the federal government. There is no example that exists of another individual who has bilked the government for the quantity of wealth that Musk has. Bezos locked away operating losses to offset future tax liability but he did not have ZIRP, Musk did AND operating losses, AND carbon credits AND a federal tax credit for cars AND solar panel install...AND he has been able to exploit operating in China, producing parts and vehicles to escape tariffs. The guy is a scammer period, and I would say the same if he were considered for Biden or Harris or Obama to slash government spending. Before you summarize me it is best to know me, dont lump me into your partisan nonsense especially when the bulk of my contention is NOT partisan.
I’m not a Republican ……
and I don’t have “ a group “ .
In fact I’m the epitome of not partisan .
BACK PATTING and KISSING threads are like passing HAM SANDWICHES around over and over-wall
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Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:
@BigGame90 Well if you are lumping me into some left group you are quite wrong with this summary. Ive disliked Musk for a very very long time and long before this Trump scheme. I find Musk to be an abusive, condescending loud mouth who has built his fortune off the federal government and treats his employees like trash. I dont care which political side he is on my points are not about a political party rather that the conflict of interest he has disqualifies him from any government interaction and he is the last person who should be giving financial analysis to anyone, including pitching annuities to senior citizens. The concept of carbon credits might have merit as it is meant to motivate carbon producers to either find ways to minimize their impact or pay for polluting the environment with carbon. The fact these were given to a company who should not receive them and that he sells them to other companies AND that these credits are a substantial percentage of his profits and thus his stock price and thus his net worth is absurd. Then you add on federal tax credits and then you add on ZIRP and there you have my summary. Musk has built BILLIONS in fortune squarely off the back of the taxpayer and the federal government. There is no example that exists of another individual who has bilked the government for the quantity of wealth that Musk has. Bezos locked away operating losses to offset future tax liability but he did not have ZIRP, Musk did AND operating losses, AND carbon credits AND a federal tax credit for cars AND solar panel install...AND he has been able to exploit operating in China, producing parts and vehicles to escape tariffs. The guy is a scammer period, and I would say the same if he were considered for Biden or Harris or Obama to slash government spending. Before you summarize me it is best to know me, dont lump me into your partisan nonsense especially when the bulk of my contention is NOT partisan.
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