Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: btw claw, I have BALT as the most likely team this week to reverse their 9-2 OVER tendancy good luck with your plays and imo you were more right than wrong on HOUSTON. I would still make the wagers but at a reduced amount. See ya at the cashier's window. I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round.
Yes I agree! The icing for me will be a 7% of BR addition to have some tasty hedges in round 1 of playoffs. Yes 10-7 is likely,whereas my preseason
thoughts before wagering was 11-6............................................gl this week
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: btw claw, I have BALT as the most likely team this week to reverse their 9-2 OVER tendancy good luck with your plays and imo you were more right than wrong on HOUSTON. I would still make the wagers but at a reduced amount. See ya at the cashier's window. I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round.
Yes I agree! The icing for me will be a 7% of BR addition to have some tasty hedges in round 1 of playoffs. Yes 10-7 is likely,whereas my preseason
thoughts before wagering was 11-6............................................gl this week
FO no.1 ranked team does not have a good record for making SB.
Not sure how they do overall in playoffs with all teams but they don't do well with no. 1 team.
My no.1 team has made way more SB's even though starting in 2018 they did have a tough number of years but that was mostly due to not having a strong rated no. 1.
FO's strong rated no. 1 teams have not done well.
But they due have alot more to offer then the no. 1 team. They are well-worth following.
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FO no.1 ranked team does not have a good record for making SB.
Not sure how they do overall in playoffs with all teams but they don't do well with no. 1 team.
My no.1 team has made way more SB's even though starting in 2018 they did have a tough number of years but that was mostly due to not having a strong rated no. 1.
FO's strong rated no. 1 teams have not done well.
But they due have alot more to offer then the no. 1 team. They are well-worth following.
@theclaw I saw online someone saying FO's DVOA had Lions ranked 3rd best team since 1979. Possibly..... but last year's Ravens team finished the year as the 2nd highest rated dvoa team in history and we saw how that worked out for them. If I remember correctly, I posted the all time top 10 last year when discussing that Ravens team and I think maybe only half of the list were teams that went on to win SB. Always like to gauge your PRI and PRII with these lists
Not sure what happened but I was replying to your post ..................
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Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:
@theclaw I saw online someone saying FO's DVOA had Lions ranked 3rd best team since 1979. Possibly..... but last year's Ravens team finished the year as the 2nd highest rated dvoa team in history and we saw how that worked out for them. If I remember correctly, I posted the all time top 10 last year when discussing that Ravens team and I think maybe only half of the list were teams that went on to win SB. Always like to gauge your PRI and PRII with these lists
Not sure what happened but I was replying to your post ..................
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: btw claw, I have BALT as the most likely team this week to reverse their 9-2 OVER tendancy good luck with your plays and imo you were more right than wrong on HOUSTON. I would still make the wagers but at a reduced amount. See ya at the cashier's window. I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round. Yes I agree! The icing for me will be a 7% of BR addition to have some tasty hedges in round 1 of playoffs. Yes 10-7 is likely,whereas my preseason thoughts before wagering was 11-6............................................gl this week
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Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: btw claw, I have BALT as the most likely team this week to reverse their 9-2 OVER tendancy good luck with your plays and imo you were more right than wrong on HOUSTON. I would still make the wagers but at a reduced amount. See ya at the cashier's window. I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round. Yes I agree! The icing for me will be a 7% of BR addition to have some tasty hedges in round 1 of playoffs. Yes 10-7 is likely,whereas my preseason thoughts before wagering was 11-6............................................gl this week
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round. I can imagine a scenario in which the Colts win out and tie the Texans at 10-7, but Houston beat them twice this season. And winning out means winning at Denver, their toughest matchup remaining. If they don't win out, Texans just need two wins for the division.
Yep, Broncos will be the toughest game. It's possible they could win. I wasn't sure who had the tiebreaker, with Texans owning that it will be tough but crazier things have happened.
The way the Texans are playing they could lose another game to a unlikely team............
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Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:
Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: I looked at Texans schedule and the Colts, it would not be reaching to much to say the Colts could win this division. Colts have a group of cupcakes while Texans have KC, Ravens and another tough opp. They could lose all 3 of those games but 2 of the 3 are at home so maybe they get 1. That loss to the Titans might just come-back to bite the Texans. That was a very bad loss. Even if they win division they'll likely be the lowest seeded division winner which means they will play the best WC team. Could be Steelers or Ravens whichever team does not win division. I can't see the Texans beating either of those teams in the WC round. I can imagine a scenario in which the Colts win out and tie the Texans at 10-7, but Houston beat them twice this season. And winning out means winning at Denver, their toughest matchup remaining. If they don't win out, Texans just need two wins for the division.
Yep, Broncos will be the toughest game. It's possible they could win. I wasn't sure who had the tiebreaker, with Texans owning that it will be tough but crazier things have happened.
The way the Texans are playing they could lose another game to a unlikely team............
Gl claw What does PR stand for? Power ranking ? Personal rating? Your pr1 more offense based and pr2 more defense based? Forgot what u said few years back
Power Ratings.
PR I is more passing, combo of offense and defe6.
PR II is more balance oriented with run game carrying more weight.
Both are combo of offense - defense or how much a team out-plays it's opps..........
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Quote Originally Posted by dubz4dummyz:
Gl claw What does PR stand for? Power ranking ? Personal rating? Your pr1 more offense based and pr2 more defense based? Forgot what u said few years back
Power Ratings.
PR I is more passing, combo of offense and defe6.
PR II is more balance oriented with run game carrying more weight.
Both are combo of offense - defense or how much a team out-plays it's opps..........
Tomlin othe best dog coach. Steelers being a top 3 week 1 big performer off a 10 win season.
These teams win their divisions a high rate, something around 75% of the time. Even the unlikiest teams to start the year.
Plus playing a division opp where division record could play into tiebreaker I trust in the method.
And with Ravens playing Eagles a loss for Ravens could really set up Steelers nicely.
Steelers drop to 11th pts per plays margin at .059. But Bengals at 14th at .022.
The better way to measure a great defensive team like Steelers is yards per pts margin where Steelers are 4th at 3.7 and Bengals are something like 17 at .01.
Steelers are highly efficient with their yards and more efficient with their plays.
Big game for Steelers I think they get the SU win.
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Tomlin othe best dog coach. Steelers being a top 3 week 1 big performer off a 10 win season.
These teams win their divisions a high rate, something around 75% of the time. Even the unlikiest teams to start the year.
Plus playing a division opp where division record could play into tiebreaker I trust in the method.
And with Ravens playing Eagles a loss for Ravens could really set up Steelers nicely.
Steelers drop to 11th pts per plays margin at .059. But Bengals at 14th at .022.
The better way to measure a great defensive team like Steelers is yards per pts margin where Steelers are 4th at 3.7 and Bengals are something like 17 at .01.
Steelers are highly efficient with their yards and more efficient with their plays.
Big game for Steelers I think they get the SU win.
With Drew Lock starting over the injured Tommy Cutlets, the Giants went from +3.5 -115 to +4 -105. Personally I'd rather see Lock out there, since he seems more like a professional athlete...he doesn't still live with his mom, for starters
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With Drew Lock starting over the injured Tommy Cutlets, the Giants went from +3.5 -115 to +4 -105. Personally I'd rather see Lock out there, since he seems more like a professional athlete...he doesn't still live with his mom, for starters
With Drew Lock starting over the injured Tommy Cutlets, the Giants went from +3.5 -115 to +4 -105. Personally I'd rather see Lock out there, since he seems more like a professional athlete...he doesn't still live with his mom, for starters
Yea probably..........
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Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime:
With Drew Lock starting over the injured Tommy Cutlets, the Giants went from +3.5 -115 to +4 -105. Personally I'd rather see Lock out there, since he seems more like a professional athlete...he doesn't still live with his mom, for starters
Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Hey, hey, hey people Bears are hanging........... But because they're the Bears... lol .................... Coach fired ..........
How terrible he is with time management of a game and the press conference after the game insist his call.
Not to mention, he sent the tape of last minute feild goal blocked by GB at Soldier Field to NFL.
He is a loser not the talents on the team.
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Quote Originally Posted by theclaw:
Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Hey, hey, hey people Bears are hanging........... But because they're the Bears... lol .................... Coach fired ..........
How terrible he is with time management of a game and the press conference after the game insist his call.
Not to mention, he sent the tape of last minute feild goal blocked by GB at Soldier Field to NFL.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Supat125]Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Hey, hey, hey people Bears are hanging........... But because they're the Bears... lol .................... Coach fired .......... How terrible he is with time management of a game and the press conference after the game insist his call. Not to mention, he sent the tape of last minute feild goal blocked by GB at Soldier Field to NFL. He is a loser not the talents on
Absolutely pathetic coaching.
His explanation was there wanted to run a play with 18 seconds left then call their final timeout if needed.
This way the run the clock down giving Lions not much time left.
I saw the replay after hearing his explanation, Bears players get up and most looked lost including the QB.
One linemen was getting things organized telling players to hurry into place .
Had the players jump up quick and got into position the Lions were celebrating behind the QB at the time Bears could of caught them out of position possibly but they looked lost and ran the remaining time off the click.
They lost time getting into position then let more time run off the click before snap.
Poorly prepared team, they had no clue how to act in this spot. Coach needs to go over these situations in practice and make sure everyone understands what thay need to do.
And they basically lost 2 timeouts on plays they lacked being organized. If they had one of those this never happens.
And that linemen hands to the face is the dumbest penalty in the spot. They'd have the ball inside the 15 . Lions probably hold them anyways but they need to give themselves a chance at least they get the FG to tie.
So many mistakes .
Very very poor situational football, a lesson on how to not be efficient in pts per plays or yards per pts.
Why some teams win and others don't
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Supat125]Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Quote Originally Posted by garbagetime: Quote Originally Posted by theclaw: Hey, hey, hey people Bears are hanging........... But because they're the Bears... lol .................... Coach fired .......... How terrible he is with time management of a game and the press conference after the game insist his call. Not to mention, he sent the tape of last minute feild goal blocked by GB at Soldier Field to NFL. He is a loser not the talents on
Absolutely pathetic coaching.
His explanation was there wanted to run a play with 18 seconds left then call their final timeout if needed.
This way the run the clock down giving Lions not much time left.
I saw the replay after hearing his explanation, Bears players get up and most looked lost including the QB.
One linemen was getting things organized telling players to hurry into place .
Had the players jump up quick and got into position the Lions were celebrating behind the QB at the time Bears could of caught them out of position possibly but they looked lost and ran the remaining time off the click.
They lost time getting into position then let more time run off the click before snap.
Poorly prepared team, they had no clue how to act in this spot. Coach needs to go over these situations in practice and make sure everyone understands what thay need to do.
And they basically lost 2 timeouts on plays they lacked being organized. If they had one of those this never happens.
And that linemen hands to the face is the dumbest penalty in the spot. They'd have the ball inside the 15 . Lions probably hold them anyways but they need to give themselves a chance at least they get the FG to tie.
So many mistakes .
Very very poor situational football, a lesson on how to not be efficient in pts per plays or yards per pts.
Giants go deeper into regression. The right play according to the BF is to up our play and back Giants next week. With the ML being very much in play.
Interesting that I found a new regression method and according to this method the Giants were not a play on team VS Boys and would not be next week either.
The play on team was the Boys of all things. Crazy. Depending the on parameters I set for the method. To start I set the parameters high so Boys did not meet that but I don't know at this time where they should be.
I may be using this method combining with the BF to make the BF better if possible. So I will be talking about this going forward.
For example the Bears were a play VS Lions and they were way over the already high parameters. They were over by the most of any team I looked into thus far.
Last week Zona was over as well and a fade and a I had a BF fade on them too that we won.
Next week the Packers would be a fade, they don't meet the high parameters but are much closer then the Boys were.
But Packers just miss being a play on team in my other system by .05 the parameters obviously parameters are not set in stone so that'd be in the gray area.
Although I try to stay disciplined and only make plays meet the parameters.
I will be talking about this method going forward, there are different ways to use it trying to find a way to make BF better.
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Giants go deeper into regression. The right play according to the BF is to up our play and back Giants next week. With the ML being very much in play.
Interesting that I found a new regression method and according to this method the Giants were not a play on team VS Boys and would not be next week either.
The play on team was the Boys of all things. Crazy. Depending the on parameters I set for the method. To start I set the parameters high so Boys did not meet that but I don't know at this time where they should be.
I may be using this method combining with the BF to make the BF better if possible. So I will be talking about this going forward.
For example the Bears were a play VS Lions and they were way over the already high parameters. They were over by the most of any team I looked into thus far.
Last week Zona was over as well and a fade and a I had a BF fade on them too that we won.
Next week the Packers would be a fade, they don't meet the high parameters but are much closer then the Boys were.
But Packers just miss being a play on team in my other system by .05 the parameters obviously parameters are not set in stone so that'd be in the gray area.
Although I try to stay disciplined and only make plays meet the parameters.
I will be talking about this method going forward, there are different ways to use it trying to find a way to make BF better.
Good stuff claw very interesting. The point you made about the mid point of the season and expected regression makes a ton of sense. It explains why I put a new system/method into play last season starting week 9 and had a killer second half. Now the first half of this season was a nightmare for me, just hanging on for dear life to remain around the break even point and being as low as -7 units at one point. I¡¯m hoping that the turnaround is coming. Like you and jow seem to be getting at, the favorites are way overvalued at this point and the dogs are undervalued. Great conversation and I look forward to hearing more as the year goes on.
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@theclaw
Good stuff claw very interesting. The point you made about the mid point of the season and expected regression makes a ton of sense. It explains why I put a new system/method into play last season starting week 9 and had a killer second half. Now the first half of this season was a nightmare for me, just hanging on for dear life to remain around the break even point and being as low as -7 units at one point. I¡¯m hoping that the turnaround is coming. Like you and jow seem to be getting at, the favorites are way overvalued at this point and the dogs are undervalued. Great conversation and I look forward to hearing more as the year goes on.
@theclaw Good stuff claw very interesting. The point you made about the mid point of the season and expected regression makes a ton of sense. It explains why I put a new system/method into play last season starting week 9 and had a killer second half. Now the first half of this season was a nightmare for me, just hanging on for dear life to remain around the break even point and being as low as -7 units at one point. I¡¯m hoping that the turnaround is coming. Like you and jow seem to be getting at, the favorites are way overvalued at this point and the dogs are undervalued. Great conversation and I look forward to hearing more as the year goes on.
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Quote Originally Posted by brn2loslive2win:
@theclaw Good stuff claw very interesting. The point you made about the mid point of the season and expected regression makes a ton of sense. It explains why I put a new system/method into play last season starting week 9 and had a killer second half. Now the first half of this season was a nightmare for me, just hanging on for dear life to remain around the break even point and being as low as -7 units at one point. I¡¯m hoping that the turnaround is coming. Like you and jow seem to be getting at, the favorites are way overvalued at this point and the dogs are undervalued. Great conversation and I look forward to hearing more as the year goes on.
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