"Florida State is a different team without Jordan Travis," Corrigan said. "One of the things we do consider is player availability, and our job is to rank the best teams, and in the final decision looking at that, it was Alabama at 4 and Florida State at 5."
Wow I knew this would be the sole reason FSU gets left out but I never would have thought the committee would openly admit it as they had no other argument. It's like no matter how great you are, if your best player goes down and no matter how well they play in his absence it's over. That's pretty much the message they sent. A big FU to FSU. In the end fans got what they wanted. NCAA definitely got what they wanted $$$ (which is really what it was all about). As a die hard UNC fan I do feel bad for FSU fans out there and even worst for the players
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"Florida State is a different team without Jordan Travis," Corrigan said. "One of the things we do consider is player availability, and our job is to rank the best teams, and in the final decision looking at that, it was Alabama at 4 and Florida State at 5."
Wow I knew this would be the sole reason FSU gets left out but I never would have thought the committee would openly admit it as they had no other argument. It's like no matter how great you are, if your best player goes down and no matter how well they play in his absence it's over. That's pretty much the message they sent. A big FU to FSU. In the end fans got what they wanted. NCAA definitely got what they wanted $$$ (which is really what it was all about). As a die hard UNC fan I do feel bad for FSU fans out there and even worst for the players
NO..Unless he got injured in the 1st quarter and Michigan struggled to beat Iowa like a scored of 13-6..then quite possibly...The problem with FSU is once Travis went out some 4 games ago..they do not look like a Top 5 team....If Travis got injured in the ACC Ship game then FSU would have gotten in..because noone would know how bad the offense would be and if they are a severe lesser team
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NO..Unless he got injured in the 1st quarter and Michigan struggled to beat Iowa like a scored of 13-6..then quite possibly...The problem with FSU is once Travis went out some 4 games ago..they do not look like a Top 5 team....If Travis got injured in the ACC Ship game then FSU would have gotten in..because noone would know how bad the offense would be and if they are a severe lesser team
"Florida State is a different team without Jordan Travis," Corrigan said. "One of the things we do consider is player availability, and our job is to rank the best teams, and in the final decision looking at that, it was Alabama at 4 and Florida State at 5." Wow I knew this would be the sole reason FSU gets left out but I never would have thought the committee would openly admit it as they had no other argument. It's like no matter how great you are, if your best player goes down and no matter how well they play in his absence it's over. That's pretty much the message they sent. A big FU to FSU. In the end fans got what they wanted. NCAA definitely got what they wanted $$$ (which is really what it was all about). As a die hard UNC fan I do feel bad for FSU fans out there and even worst for the players
No. This was a bull$hit excuse because they had no real justification for keeping them out after ranking them #4 for the last 3 weeks without Jordan Travis. If this truly mattered the committee would not have had them ranked #4 coming into the weekend without JT. The committee should just keep it real and say our sole basis for the rankings is how the teams looked and performed this weekend in conference tournaments in our eyes because that is how they chose them. 4 best, 4 deserving is all bull$hit. They truly based it on their perception of one weekend of action.
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Quote Originally Posted by Kaname484:
"Florida State is a different team without Jordan Travis," Corrigan said. "One of the things we do consider is player availability, and our job is to rank the best teams, and in the final decision looking at that, it was Alabama at 4 and Florida State at 5." Wow I knew this would be the sole reason FSU gets left out but I never would have thought the committee would openly admit it as they had no other argument. It's like no matter how great you are, if your best player goes down and no matter how well they play in his absence it's over. That's pretty much the message they sent. A big FU to FSU. In the end fans got what they wanted. NCAA definitely got what they wanted $$$ (which is really what it was all about). As a die hard UNC fan I do feel bad for FSU fans out there and even worst for the players
No. This was a bull$hit excuse because they had no real justification for keeping them out after ranking them #4 for the last 3 weeks without Jordan Travis. If this truly mattered the committee would not have had them ranked #4 coming into the weekend without JT. The committee should just keep it real and say our sole basis for the rankings is how the teams looked and performed this weekend in conference tournaments in our eyes because that is how they chose them. 4 best, 4 deserving is all bull$hit. They truly based it on their perception of one weekend of action.
Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
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Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
Michigan actually got out gained by FSU yesterday so where does that justify FSU isnt the same team. Louisville stacked the box and they still ran the ball down there throat. The committee absolutely made an excuse to say because they are not the same team without Travis. Thats how they made the case for Alabama to be one of the 4 teams. Texas and Alabama are one of the best 4 teams left according to the committee what about Georgia. They are better than Washington why are they not in. They would beat any of the 4 teams in that top 4. The committee says best 4 teams. Georgia is a top 4 team so the committee messed up.
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Michigan actually got out gained by FSU yesterday so where does that justify FSU isnt the same team. Louisville stacked the box and they still ran the ball down there throat. The committee absolutely made an excuse to say because they are not the same team without Travis. Thats how they made the case for Alabama to be one of the 4 teams. Texas and Alabama are one of the best 4 teams left according to the committee what about Georgia. They are better than Washington why are they not in. They would beat any of the 4 teams in that top 4. The committee says best 4 teams. Georgia is a top 4 team so the committee messed up.
Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
The confusion is that no one knows who the 4 "best teams" are because they all do not get to play each other and the committees idea of who is "best" is based on their own perception. By logic a an undefeated 13-0 Power 5 team that wins their conference should be in over 1 or both 1 loss Power 5 teams that win their conference. The records should matter not how the committee felt that the teams looked for 1 week out of the entire year. Alabama was not considered one of the best 4 or best 7 teams last week when they looked like $hit against a bad Auburn team. But with one win this week by 3 points, they are all of the sudden one of the "best"? It is irrational.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
The confusion is that no one knows who the 4 "best teams" are because they all do not get to play each other and the committees idea of who is "best" is based on their own perception. By logic a an undefeated 13-0 Power 5 team that wins their conference should be in over 1 or both 1 loss Power 5 teams that win their conference. The records should matter not how the committee felt that the teams looked for 1 week out of the entire year. Alabama was not considered one of the best 4 or best 7 teams last week when they looked like $hit against a bad Auburn team. But with one win this week by 3 points, they are all of the sudden one of the "best"? It is irrational.
Michigan actually got out gained by FSU yesterday so where does that justify FSU isnt the same team. Louisville stacked the box and they still ran the ball down there throat. The committee absolutely made an excuse to say because they are not the same team without Travis. Thats how they made the case for Alabama to be one of the 4 teams. Texas and Alabama are one of the best 4 teams left according to the committee what about Georgia. They are better than Washington why are they not in. They would beat any of the 4 teams in that top 4. The committee says best 4 teams. Georgia is a top 4 team so the committee messed up.
IOWA has a Great defense...There is a reason why that team won 10 games and made it to the B10 Ship with a Backup QB and probably bottom 10 offense in all of college football....The previous game Michigan put up 30 on TOSU So u can't say FSU outgained Michigan yesterday when the previous week they beat #2 ranked TSOU and out up 30 on them..
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Quote Originally Posted by thornton6:
Michigan actually got out gained by FSU yesterday so where does that justify FSU isnt the same team. Louisville stacked the box and they still ran the ball down there throat. The committee absolutely made an excuse to say because they are not the same team without Travis. Thats how they made the case for Alabama to be one of the 4 teams. Texas and Alabama are one of the best 4 teams left according to the committee what about Georgia. They are better than Washington why are they not in. They would beat any of the 4 teams in that top 4. The committee says best 4 teams. Georgia is a top 4 team so the committee messed up.
IOWA has a Great defense...There is a reason why that team won 10 games and made it to the B10 Ship with a Backup QB and probably bottom 10 offense in all of college football....The previous game Michigan put up 30 on TOSU So u can't say FSU outgained Michigan yesterday when the previous week they beat #2 ranked TSOU and out up 30 on them..
Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1?
Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is...
Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1?
Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument.
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is... Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1? Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument.
So u want Liberty in the playoffs then?
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is... Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1? Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument.
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.Unlike Big 12 I'll take the BiG 12 all day from top to bottom
Interesting take.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Quote Originally Posted by benhogan76: Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.Unlike Big 12 I'll take the BiG 12 all day from top to bottom
THANKFULLY the committee didn’t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The “it’s not fair” people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country
love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don’t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it’s only FAIR
LMAO
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THANKFULLY the committee didn’t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The “it’s not fair” people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country
love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don’t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it’s only FAIR
Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is... Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1? Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument. So u want Liberty in the playoffs then?
No. Is Liberty in a Power 5 conference? Why would they be in? Teams outside of Power 5 conference are never considered for the playoff. This is not NEW.
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Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:
Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem: Quote Originally Posted by davemsh: Also not sure what the confusion is...The committee made it clear weeks ago that its the 4 best teams...and not the 4 most deserving...It is what it is... Isn't 13-0 bester than 12-1? Truth is we've been arguing this shit since Boise State and Utah never got their shot. They should've put FSU in, let them get waxed and then you can sell this argument. So u want Liberty in the playoffs then?
No. Is Liberty in a Power 5 conference? Why would they be in? Teams outside of Power 5 conference are never considered for the playoff. This is not NEW.
THANKFULLY the committee didn¡¯t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The ¡°it¡¯s not fair¡± people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don¡¯t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it¡¯s only FAIR LMAO
Did FSU win the 2 games without him or no? Participation trophy? They went 13-0.
Did Bama look like a top 4 team in the country at Auburn a week ago with all of their starters?? I'll wait.
But because they beat Georgia legit a week later, they now look like a top 4 team?? GTFO
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Quote Originally Posted by kimberton:
THANKFULLY the committee didn¡¯t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The ¡°it¡¯s not fair¡± people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don¡¯t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it¡¯s only FAIR LMAO
Did FSU win the 2 games without him or no? Participation trophy? They went 13-0.
Did Bama look like a top 4 team in the country at Auburn a week ago with all of their starters?? I'll wait.
But because they beat Georgia legit a week later, they now look like a top 4 team?? GTFO
Quote Originally Posted by kimberton: THANKFULLY the committee didn¡¯t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The ¡°it¡¯s not fair¡± people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don¡¯t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it¡¯s only FAIR LMAO Did FSU win the 2 games without him or no? Participation trophy? They went 13-0. Did Bama look like a top 4 team in the country at Auburn a week ago with all of their starters?? I'll wait. But because they beat Georgia legit a week later, they now look like a top 4 team?? GTFO
You can¡¯t win this. Which is sad.
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Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:
Quote Originally Posted by kimberton: THANKFULLY the committee didn¡¯t become an extension of our society, the OP of this thread and the millions bitching around the country. The ¡°it¡¯s not fair¡± people who want to hand FSU the PARTICIPATION TROPHY for their body of work for 11 games with a QB who was a heisman hopeful, not the 2 games without him where they no doubt PROVED that in his absence they were no where close to one of the BEST 4 teams in the country love The but but but they deserve it clowns same people of sit idly by and watch their 10 year olds play games where they don¡¯t keep score and everyone gets a trophy because it¡¯s only FAIR LMAO Did FSU win the 2 games without him or no? Participation trophy? They went 13-0. Did Bama look like a top 4 team in the country at Auburn a week ago with all of their starters?? I'll wait. But because they beat Georgia legit a week later, they now look like a top 4 team?? GTFO
They did win their 2 games and in those TWO games PROVED committee and any respectable human being with EYES that they WERE NOT the same team or anywhere close to it WITHOUT travis
that¡¯s LITERALLY the reason your boys aren¡¯t in the CFP.
bamas body of work speaks for itself SOS wins against 1/11/13/21 opponents record 80-59
FSU opponents record what 67-76
but NONE of that matters you simply don¡¯t have the same team nor are one of the BEST 4 teams
if Travis were playing Bama is out. He¡¯s not and FSU in that 2 game dress rehearsal showed everyone they ARE NOT anywhere close to the BEST 4 teams without leader travis
Tough shit now put on your big boy underwear and move on to the orange bowl where Georgia will make the committee look loke geniuses once they absolutely railroad your holes
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They did win their 2 games and in those TWO games PROVED committee and any respectable human being with EYES that they WERE NOT the same team or anywhere close to it WITHOUT travis
that¡¯s LITERALLY the reason your boys aren¡¯t in the CFP.
bamas body of work speaks for itself SOS wins against 1/11/13/21 opponents record 80-59
FSU opponents record what 67-76
but NONE of that matters you simply don¡¯t have the same team nor are one of the BEST 4 teams
if Travis were playing Bama is out. He¡¯s not and FSU in that 2 game dress rehearsal showed everyone they ARE NOT anywhere close to the BEST 4 teams without leader travis
Tough shit now put on your big boy underwear and move on to the orange bowl where Georgia will make the committee look loke geniuses once they absolutely railroad your holes
@DeezyAZ81 They did win their 2 games and in those TWO games PROVED committee and any respectable human being with EYES that they WERE NOT the same team or anywhere close to it WITHOUT travis that¡¯s LITERALLY the reason your boys aren¡¯t in the CFP. bamas body of work speaks for itself SOS wins against 1/11/13/21 opponents record 80-59 FSU opponents record what 67-76 but NONE of that matters you simply don¡¯t have the same team nor are one of the BEST 4 teams if Travis were playing Bama is out. He¡¯s not and FSU in that 2 game dress rehearsal showed everyone they ARE NOT anywhere close to the BEST 4 teams without leader travis Tough shit now put on your big boy underwear and move on to the orange bowl where Georgia will make the committee look loke geniuses once they absolutely railroad your holes
This makes zero sense. Bama legit looked like dog $hit a week ago and won. But you discredit FSU winning by more than Bama did last week at Auburn in both weeks without Jordan Travis. You are showing your Bama and SEC bias. It really is as simple as that. The committee got it wrong. If they thought FSU was so much lesser without Jordan Travis they should have been ranked 6-7 coming into this week, not #4. The committee just makes $hit up on the fly to get the SEC in, which is the problem.
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Quote Originally Posted by kimberton:
@DeezyAZ81 They did win their 2 games and in those TWO games PROVED committee and any respectable human being with EYES that they WERE NOT the same team or anywhere close to it WITHOUT travis that¡¯s LITERALLY the reason your boys aren¡¯t in the CFP. bamas body of work speaks for itself SOS wins against 1/11/13/21 opponents record 80-59 FSU opponents record what 67-76 but NONE of that matters you simply don¡¯t have the same team nor are one of the BEST 4 teams if Travis were playing Bama is out. He¡¯s not and FSU in that 2 game dress rehearsal showed everyone they ARE NOT anywhere close to the BEST 4 teams without leader travis Tough shit now put on your big boy underwear and move on to the orange bowl where Georgia will make the committee look loke geniuses once they absolutely railroad your holes
This makes zero sense. Bama legit looked like dog $hit a week ago and won. But you discredit FSU winning by more than Bama did last week at Auburn in both weeks without Jordan Travis. You are showing your Bama and SEC bias. It really is as simple as that. The committee got it wrong. If they thought FSU was so much lesser without Jordan Travis they should have been ranked 6-7 coming into this week, not #4. The committee just makes $hit up on the fly to get the SEC in, which is the problem.
Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.
This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.
This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.
This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating.
This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating. This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
Agreed. I have no idea why Michigan moved up to 1 over Washington either. For beating a dog$hit Iowa team while showing nothing on offense. Michigan about to get blown out.
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Quote Originally Posted by Natty68:
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Michigan should be out anyway. Crap conference and literally caught cheating. This^^^. It should be Georgia in instead. Just get past an inept Penn St offense and an uncharacteristically weak Ohio St offense and it¡¯s a waltz into the playoffs?? They¡¯d have three or four losses if they faced a murderers row SEC schedule. The team total on their opponent in their CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME WAS 6.5 for fux sake. And yeah¡.the whole cheating thing too.
Agreed. I have no idea why Michigan moved up to 1 over Washington either. For beating a dog$hit Iowa team while showing nothing on offense. Michigan about to get blown out.
We can play the they looked like shit this game that game with every team. Fsu looked like shit Vs BC or pittt or whoever. They couldn¡¯t score against a Louisville team that Kentucky scored 40 on last week and beat blah blah blah transitive property all day
Fact is bama and the other top TEN teams in CFP are BETTER than travislessFSU that¡¯s why FSU is OUT
the committee said they wouuld make decisions after seeing how fsu and qb situation plays out after Reese Davis asked them that 2 weeks ago - and here we are
fsu stiff armed back to tally and a date with uga in the orange where they will be properly fucked by the SEC bias bulldogs
sorry. It just isn¡¯t FAIR, is it?
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@DeezyAZ81
We can play the they looked like shit this game that game with every team. Fsu looked like shit Vs BC or pittt or whoever. They couldn¡¯t score against a Louisville team that Kentucky scored 40 on last week and beat blah blah blah transitive property all day
Fact is bama and the other top TEN teams in CFP are BETTER than travislessFSU that¡¯s why FSU is OUT
the committee said they wouuld make decisions after seeing how fsu and qb situation plays out after Reese Davis asked them that 2 weeks ago - and here we are
fsu stiff armed back to tally and a date with uga in the orange where they will be properly fucked by the SEC bias bulldogs
Blown out by Alabama? If that¡¯s the case and. Couple that with the diatribe you¡¯re spewing about FSU deserving to be in ¡¡then I can assume you believe FSU would also blow out Michigan had they been th 4th spot?
look forward to your response
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@DeezyAZ81
Blown out by Alabama? If that¡¯s the case and. Couple that with the diatribe you¡¯re spewing about FSU deserving to be in ¡¡then I can assume you believe FSU would also blow out Michigan had they been th 4th spot?
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