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replied to Clippers and Raptors UNDER 205 (2 units)
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mgmprofits,
Thanks for posting this valued info.
Can I ask how did you actually cap the game?

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mgmprofits

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January 24, 2016

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replied to 2 h
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Quote Originally Posted by jrgumpert:

Indiana monks were down by 7 with 18 seconds left, fouled twice and gave Sac 4 points via free throws?
You have no chance assssholes, down by 9 with 10 seconds left, why foul??? Cost me 12K G damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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01/23/2016 @ 09:45 PM	NBA	[517] INDIANA +9.5 -110 (B+6)
01/23/2016 @ 09:45 PM	NBA	[520] PORTLAND -5.5 -115 (B+6)

6500.00

5000.00

Is that $6500 USD you risked?!

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vicky98

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January 24, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by vicky98:

Pinnacle, + Bong88 they are bullshit to me - i used them before and i never use them again - They trail the time for live bet too much and not fare for to play -The same time to live one they accep you lose - one they dont you win - garbage -- I see bets365 is the best - but better getting local bookies account for clearly money by week

What's wrong with Pinnacle?
They offer extremely HIGH ODDS (e.g. more than 1.95) and many of your bets are half-time bets, so Pinnacle is the perfect bookmaker for such bets - you get high return.

Bet365 is offering 1.86 at most during halftime, and if you win with them you will get limited quickly, it happened to me already, I can't use Bet365 and I don't need them ... I just use them for viewing scores etc. but not for betting.

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vicky98

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January 23, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by scoutagent24:

cant find you in my friends list, i already added you. thanks.

why you want to use ac instead of going directly to pinnacle, i know they have high limit there and also a kyc policy too...

why book an agent same thing you will do it online...

The reason I use an agent is because with agent the limits are MUCH HIGHER than with regular account ... also you don't need to do KYC with them, it's all going through an agent, you can also transfer funds from Pinnacle to SBOBet or others in a matter of seconds, I know an agent sounds like a bad idea to you but trust me - it's an extremely helpful way for betting and betting big if that's what you're after.

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vicky98

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January 23, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by vicky98:

Anything in my life the first i believe about lucky my friend even to try the best - but who know what happen tomorrow ?

and then i'm a regular person as you -can not win all - some day lucky some day unlucky

Yes, I totally understand it vicky.
I also love your English, you express what you want to say in a "broken" English but it's a very good one (e.g. you don't say "who know", you should say "who knows" and "what will happen tomorrow") - I just love reading your English.

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vicky98

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January 23, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by scoutagent24:

i think money management is lack in most of us.

you can win consistently if you have. patience, i know you are betting how many years now...

so you directly contact ac? or a friend gave you acct? i hope its in your favor...

they also has kyc policy.

i added u as a friend. thank you dontknowhowtobe

I've added you.
They have a KYC policy but only once, it's easy to go through it ... that's all... the bookmakers you use with them (e.g. Pinnacle) have no KYC policy, because it's an agent account, so it's easy to deal with it.

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by scoutagent24:

dontknowhow to be...

i saw you before thinking about quitting then relapsing... me too but still grinding sigh...

hope you get the job done and win consistently...

my local bookie wont let me in on the website... he wants to control and fck up players lol.

i think i need an agent... dont know the ins and out who can let me access the website...

i got local who are big but they are lazy or sometimes intentionally lazy to fck u your bets.

thanks man, i appreciate that.
I can use Skrill or Neteller with high amount of money without any troubles, they never "investigate" anything as long as your account is properly verified.

I do recommend the use of agent ... my worries are not limits nor placing bets - I'm just not able to make the right picks and thinking of quitting but it's hard.

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by vicky98:

Sacramento Kings +? (+100) 2nd Half

Canucks - LIVE ML (+155)

Florida Atlantic +? (-105) 2nd Half

BIG
Morehead State -4 (-112) 2nd Half

Idaho +4? (-105) 2nd Half

BIG
San Antonio Spurs -6 (-105) 2nd Half

BIG

lucky night

Vicky, I'm sorry but the term "lucky" doesn't belong to you ... with you there is no "luck", there is only pure reading of the script, and I'm honestly not sure how you do it time and time again.

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by scoutagent24:

dontknowhow...

what book online do you uae?

how about those documwnts you gave them when you bet big or win big...

I use, not uae

And those are screenshots, not documents

I use Pinnacle via an agent - AsianConnect88 - the limits are extremely high. You can use Neteller for deposits & withdrawals which are both pretty INSTANT (or in practice take around 10-15 minutes).

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by vicky98:

It's my day -double down on it

When are you going to post another pick, is it just random, you post it whenever you see an opportunity?

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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I'm amazed by the picks of vicky here ... it's just unbelievable how vicky manages to read the script of the game - you can be a millionaire ... !

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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How the hell do you do it time after time????

I'm such an idiot, wanted to bet $5,000 on this one but didn't even think about the spread, only about the total ...

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vicky98

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January 22, 2016

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replied to Does gambling addiction groups help?
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I've documented my entire personal story here:

https://www.gamblingstories.com/

I've started my blog/personal forum in January 2014, it's been 2 years now, I haven't stopped yet.

It's hard ... for me I'm mainly attached to the NBA ... NFL or Baseball doesn't talk to me ... Tennis does interest me from time to time but we got the Australian Open and I barely had any interest in that ... the reason being is because the odds in the NBA are quite rewarding and unlike Baseball or NFL the over/under has much more flexibility...

BUT

In terms of gambling, of the addiction itself - honestly I'd like to be more productive on my own and stop with it ... gambling takes precious time away from you ... time from your family, from yourself and much more.
Is it worth it? No, I don't think so.

But can I tell you it's easy to stop? No, I'm still looking at odds ... right now I feel terrible that I could take SAS -13.5 at the end of the 3rd quarter noticing that "vicky98" took them for -18 at halftime:

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Vicky is a great capper here, so noticing it I feel bad I could smash the -13.5 spread with like $5,000 on it (odds of 1.90 approx)

So it's killing me on the one hand but on the other I have to learn to live with it ... in the end of the day even if you make millions in gambling - it won't do you any good - people who won the lotteries and jackpots - most of them anyway had worse life than the ones they had before.

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guyhopestowin

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January 22, 2016

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replied to NBA is RIGGED !!! I've said it 1000 times!! IT IS RIGGED!!
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Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:

The relevance is that it's proof there is not enough money involved in sports betting for casino operators to waste their time operating it. Most people familiar with how Vegas actually works knows that Vegas only has sportsbooks to entice people into the doors of their casino. They hope they'll make a bet then go hit the tables or slots where the real money is made. FACT is sportsbooks only represent less than 2% of overall revenue for casinos.

https://gaming.unlv.edu/reports/bigstripcasinotrends.pdf

Do you wonder how your local bookie always wins? How he never goes bankrupt? He rakes in money even when it's a small operation. Is he fixing games? No of course not, he wins because running a book is GUARANTEED MONEY! 99% of sports bettors are losers in the long run, you run a book your gonna make money. Fixing is not necessary. A random NBA game on a Wednesday night means absolutely nothing in the big picture. To say that a game like that would need to be fixed is someone who doesnt understand a bookies operations.

Where do you bring up the 2% from? I love it when someone knows exactly the right figure to reflect something.

I know how a bookie works, they make money from the "fee" aka (=also known as) vig/juice.

So you risk $1000 to win $900 - the bookie made $100.

But don't you understand the bookie might get 70% of bets on A and 30% on B? This is where it's worth getting the outcome to be B.
Why? Because human beings by nature are mean.

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

That is the most accurate statement on covers.

Money controls everything, and people are greedy.

Only Americans would see people left out of the hall of fame, sent to jail, kicked out of school, scholarships lost, leagues fined, people arrested, athletes ADMITTING to receiving bribe offers....

And despite all of that...some people will still claim sports aren't fixed/rigged/clean...sure are some morons out there

Not all of them are lol.

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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replied to Top 5 at each position currently in the NBA.
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What are your picks for today Papa?

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PapaShango

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January 21, 2016

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replied to NBA is RIGGED !!! I've said it 1000 times!! IT IS RIGGED!!
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Quote Originally Posted by games1:

dontknow...most haters here are books...f them...

If anyone here doesn't acknowledge that Chris Paul foul I mentioned earlier then they are in denial...u know ur s hit bro...agree 100%

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by j-walk:

It's one thing if you claim the refs are manipulating a game to favor a popular team, so that the NBA looks good. It's a whole other thing to claim Vegas or oddsmakers have anything to do with this.

And If you use spreads and betting examples as proof of rigging then you are claiming oddsmakers are involved in this. That is the part of all this that is insane. I've said this over and over, Vegas doesnt give a crap about it's sportsbooks operations. There's not enough money involved compared to what the rest of the casino operations bring in. So obviously they'd have zero interest in fixing a game.

The smoking gun in my evidence of all this is two companies, CG Technology and William Hill. Casino operators are hiring these companies to take over and run their sportsbook operations. Now think this through, if "Vegas" was making so much money from sportsbetting that they needed to fix games, why would they hand all that money over to these 3rd party, independent sportsbook operators? Think this through.

What's the relevance of a 3rd party operation here? Who cares who creates the lines and whether there is an intermediary?!

The bottom line is simple - wherever you have a big market you have profits to make and you can be sure whoever makes those profits wants to maximize them.

It's no secret bookies don't get 50% bets on this side and 50% on that side ... take San Antonio tonight for example, favorite to win with spread of -14.5

In a pure honest world they should win by 40 but because this is a MARKET the outcome is totally unknown!

This one could end where SAS wins by 14 (and not 15) points, and then after the game everybody would scream it was rigged etc. !

Market => Opportunities For Some => Things are not genuine.

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by JayGeezy:

There are actually more like 15-20 players affecting the score for each game. Then there are the 3 on floor refs, time clock operator, review officials, numerous league officials monitoring each game, assistant coaches, announcers for all sorts of media outlets sitting sidelines talking about each player/ref/coach within earshot also affecting the games.

What motivates all these people in your view? If its some vast conspiracy to fix games for a particular outcome... answer the question - why? They all collectively have millions of dollars of action on each game they are performing in so have a personal stake in whether a particular spread is covered or not? A personal stake outside of continuing to receive their massive salaries?

In my world they are motivated to do their job, which is to perform well & win games, otherwise they won't have a job anymore. A coach and his staff are spending their time preparing a game plan for the upcoming opponent, not rehearsing some script handed down from above they have to adhere to. Their only 'script' is the game plan they've drawn up. And the players are competitors. They did not make it as far as they have by losing when told to and winning when told to.

You are trying to describe the mindset of one league, one sports (Basketball is one of many other sports) ... have you tried to think how the stock market works? What about Goldman Sachs - why is it so big nowadays? How did it make so much profit? Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC19fEqR5bA
(old video but the concept is right)

What motivates a bookmaker in the first place? He gets 60% of bets on A and 40% of bets on B - would he want A or B to win?! No need to be a genius to answer that question.

American sports is linked to gambling, whether you like it or not ... you go to the ESPN to read about the next NBA games - you get them with the lines as well ... !!

If you think this is happening by coincidence then sorry but you're delusional ... !

No wonder why so many people say Americans are naive and stupid - because they really are (no offense).

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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Quote Originally Posted by JayGeezy:

It's human nature to try and make up a story to explain what you see happening around you. That's why ancient peoples made up stories to explain natural phenomenon, saw pictures relevant to their lives in the stars & made up stories to explain how the pictures got there. But now we know there are Gods in Volcano causing it to erupt - its pressure from magma under the surface and that stars are not placed there by The Gods in particular pictures - they are in random locations that we prescribed a pattern to to help us make sense of what is going on around us.

This conspiracy theorizing about sports fixing is just more of the same basic human psychology. You made a bad bet and now are trying to spin some fantastical story to explain why your bet was a good one but the 'Gods' intervened for the other side.

Are there Russian mobsters trying to fix an obscure pro tennis match at the Slovenian Open? Probably sometimes. Are there bad apple players/coaches/refs who might have a gambling problem or some other personal problem an unsavory character learns about and uses to blackmail that individual into trying to affect the outcome of a match? Probably sometimes.

Is there a vast, league-wide conspiracy across American Pro & collegiate sports with everyone in on it from league executives to owners to coaches to players and everyone in between? Not a chance in the world. People saying 'Oh but there are millions bet on these games every week so corruption follows money'. You people think so small its embarrassing. The owners & leagues have a lot more to lose from their sports being actually rigged than they do from the outcome of betting in Vegas that they have no personal money tied up in. Its just a bunch of smucks like us tossing our paychecks to the books trying to make a little extra $$$.

These billionaire owners, league executives are running a much larger con than fixing matches; they are getting you and I, the taxpayers, to give them billions for new stadiums, tax breaks across the board, and then ditching us & our cities when the next best opportunity presents itself. And you think they would endanger all those billions by rigging everything which if exposed would destroy all the value they've created over the past 50+ years? They are smarter than that.

Firstly, I don't cry after losing a bet that the game was rigged... I was referring to games I personally had no bets on.

Secondly, I've heard this nonsense many times before that the NBA and American Sports are so big ... but REGARDLESS the score is affected by 5 players in each team ... millions are watching but only few are responsible for the score .... there are only 3 refs, 5 players, 1 coach ... why do you think those few people are so honesty and full of dignity?!?!?!

If you want to think about the opposite so the opposite of all this could be like having elections - there are only 2 candidates but do you have any idea how many people are "behind" them that influence so much?

Sorry but you are just blind if you believe the NBA is honest sports ... perhaps the STOCK MARKET is also a honest market ... gimme a break if that's what you believe in - then I'm sorry - you're just another typical American who is just too blind to see the truth in front of his face.

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dontknowhowtobe

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January 21, 2016

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