Marjorie Taylor Greene: the new face of the GOP??

My thoughts exactly. Great write up. 

If this was an issue why didn't they block all texts and cell phones in the Capitol... 

And who decides under an amendment of free speech what is protected and what isn't Pelosi and the goons...

You cant try her can't convict her or charge her so you must have absolute authority. By a majority vote in the House.... ??? Ludicrous

Nope, I said SIGNIFICANT mjority in BOTH chambers.

That is necessary. One vote can, and usually is, readily compromised for various reasons. A SIGNIFICANT majority is required and not only that but in the Seante a 60 vote majority is required for most things......which is even worse!!!

AND THAT is why Congress doesn't work for the American people.....obstruction for SPILT chambers and/or NOT having a 60 vote majority in the Senate.  

As long as the electorate continues to vote in a split chamber we will *ALWAYS* have gridlock.....and investment in Chinese or EU stocks becomes more lucrative

@nature1970

 JMHO - Best you stay off the subject of logic. A woman is or is not pregnant, her awareness of the situation has nothing to do with it. Her gardener and her husband's vasectomy also are irrelevant. She can be pregnant for a month and be unaware of it; that does not make her any less pregnant. 

Good points, Key!    

As far as I know, she is not being accused of any crime, no. 

But also as far as I know, the HOUSE, by rule, has a right as well --- to remove a member from serving on committees by majority vote.  The HOUSE does NOT have the right to kick her out of Congress as I understand. But they are exercising the right that they DO have.

The basis for her removal was/is determined by the voters in the House....not us on a sports gambling forum.

Trump had a RIGHT to serve another term.

But the voters had a right too -- not to re-elect him -- and they exercised that right, under the rules.

Unknown is unprovable everything else is a group of spinster with gossip. Not logic. Staying she was or want this America assumed innocent until proven guilty not some which hunt orchestrated by the powers that be in a form of a Spanish inquisition of popularity not conjecture evidence or facts but the opinion.... Not even to a 2 thirds measure of a Senate trial and certainly not to a jury that must agree to 100 percent. This is a Catholic witch hunt for non compliance. And that isn't America.

We habe the freedom of speech and religion it in the document these supposedly take an oath what with their figures crossed.

@fubah2

 Of course the members have that right. But it is a dangerous precedent. When does it end? Does a Republican majority remove members of the 'squad' because of their views if they take back the house?

Not this evening you aren't.

You mis-read text and applied meanings then go off the rails on unassociated sidebars.

Your usual banter is more lucid in mid-day for some reason compared with late evening....

It is not unreasonable to find precedence here.

It is not unreasonable to understand what that precedence will mean in future Congress's agenda. This isn't an iver reach of logic your being child like somehow deflecting to talking points your party gives you. 

But what you state this may or might not is illogical as you state the Republicans have become the devil itself... This becomes far too an efficient tool to squelch dissident opinions simply remove them from the chamber but once a blue moon floor vote... 

You are not being logical but emotional.

Yeah, Key,   I tried to make this same point but........ 

2 + 2 = 4 , and yet some fools might choose (for whatever motive) that it is NOT a fact.

So, does THEIR denial make it NOT a fact?

This all gows down the road of Philosophy 101.

"If a tree falls in the forest..." 

Are you sure there is NOT life on other planets?

The planet earth is actually less than 6,000 yrs old according to MANY! ....etc, etc, etc,

Some facts are KNOWABLE by our senses.   A bright sunny day is a bright sunny day.

Sometimes people confuse "their speculation" with knowable facts.

Some things aren't inherently knowable but very likely to be true based on the preponderance of the available evidence:: ie OJ killed Nicole and Ron

Logic states that if disagree with the voters in a district of America you can take their representation and permanently bench them. Without trial or impeachment proceedings without courts or law simply because one side feel a certain way....

Then this becomes the most effective tool ever congressional authority if we don't agree remive yourself from our comittee or I'll speak with the house speaker and you become ms Greene

Well, I know you are busy guy, dj, so perhaps you missed my previous post answering that specific Q.

I'm not so sure it's a "dangerous" precedent per se, nor do I believe any precedent GUARANTEES what action may be taken in the future *IF* it arises on the other side.   Courts do often act on precedent, but often THEY DON'T too.   So maybe there is no end and there will be revenge if the situation flips....Yeah....well that works both ways going forward too.  If the GOP wants to retaliate and they have a VERY SIMILAR VALID reasoning supported by 11 members of the Dems then sure.  If the wish to just remove someone ONLY for sake of retaliation *WITHOUT ACTUAL MERIT*  then I believe THAT action would set in motion a new precedent and give the Dems moral high ground (ie, based on the merits -- which is something, apparently, NOT in trumpism DNA)

Congress (majorities) has the legal right to vote off members from holding committee assignments, but not to eject them from Washington. The GOP will still get a representative on that committee in her place. THEY LOSE NOTHING.

Elections have consequences.......as we learned again when trump and Mitch PUSHED to get a  SUPREME COURT judicial confirmation just weeks before a presidential election --- supposedly a NO-NO when it is the Spureme Court --- which the GOP has done TWICE now........So if they are wailing about this action today, I say toughtiddy

Yes, and apparently you can confirm a supreme court judge a couple weeks before a presidential election too, even though it was previously stated by the same party that the nomination must be held until AFTER the new government is formed......funny that.

But our rules are the rules, and elections have consequences.

We can whine about them like YOU do, but what changes?  It's a waste of time unless YOU run for office and somehow convince others to vote with YOU to change the rules

@fubah2

 Ok, but you used terms like ¡®valid reason¡¯ and moral high ground. 

I¡¯ll ask again. What specific objective grounds are a good faith reason for removing a member from a committee? 

Since YOU are persisting about WHINING about an actual rule in congress which gives them the right, then

it is *YOU* who is being emotional and NOT logical.

Logically they have the right BY RULE.

If that rule is "ammoral" or  "immoral" then clearly YOU need to do something to fashion a change, if you can.

WHINING about the existing rule is "illogical"

toption.then to agree with Kevin McCarthy.

Be a first. But if needs to boycott Congress and he and his caucus don't go to committee simply caucus with the senators and dictate comprise in those terms.

It seems a.ma.much far effective way to block legislation.

House would have to agree with a bipartisan Senate. And the 11 can caucus with the democrats in the House.

I have my own reasons for sharing the Houses' action but they may  not be identical to the House action.  For that you will have to review various news reports arising prior to the action and the ones which will be reported again throught ALL Media shortly. I can't speak for the House nor will I try to.

ELEVEN Republicans joined the Democrats in a vote to strip her of committee assignments -- like was previously established BY HOUSE PRECEDENT when they did the same thing to Former Rep. Steve King (R-Iowa) in 2019:

FOX NEWS, Jan 14, 2019:

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, was stripped of his committee assignments by his
fellow House Republicans Monday evening following bipartisan condemnation
of King's recent remarks on white supremacy and white nationalism.

"We will not tolerate this type of language in the Republican Party ...
or in the Democratic Party as well," House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif.,
told reporters. "I watched what Steve King said and we took action."

Ok. But haven¡¯t members of the squad condemned Israel? Does that mean they are anti-Semitic? And thus, a good faith basis to be stripped as well? 

Judgement call.  Just like it was for Steve King in 2019, AL Franken (Dmocrat) and like it was again today for MTG.

I submit one lone comment does not make anyone anti-semitic, bigot, racist, sexist, etc.

I would argue there needs to be a pattern of such behavior.  If there is a definite PROVABLE pattern then I would say yes.

Of course I would want to see the pattern of evidence.

How many times has Cortez stated deplorable unconstitutional statements. If him is realabled a terrorist group then their supporters can be labled terrorist sponsors. At what end does this McCarthy witch hunt end 

Substitute word communists for terrorists supporter and rehearse the speech. If you can't see this coming down the road your blind . or simply dismissive or its a coping mechanism of snobbery to deflect

than face ugliness in the truth of human nature.

This power unharnessed or without check leads down the dark path the as need to control government. Your playing into the totalitarianism hand wake up

This ain't some stupid space game bid and see what happens... This is a ongoing motion that can reveal the very thing you fear the most.... Worse than trump with unchecked power....

We have to put into perspective, and remember, that not only do the HOUSE laws
permit the action they took today after the Republicans refused to do so,

....BUT eleven republicans broke ranks to agree with them!
Hell, a number of REPUBLICAN SENATORS agreed with the Dems on this, including Mitch!!!

       **And Democrat Al Francken and Republican Steve King are precedents!

Further, this wasn't merely a spur of the moment WHIM of the Dems in the House.
There was AND STILL IS considerable public backlash to MTG that the Dems listened to
because those are their constituents - and including survivors/parents/colleagues of
victims at SandyHook/Parkland/LasVegas/and the Pentagon that MTG disparaged with
HER VIEWS -- regardless WHEN she said them!
So the Dems sat back and waited for the GOP to "do the right thing" -- like Steve king --
but because MTG got the endorsement of adolf trump, most of them REFUSED,
and punted to the the Dems.
So the Dems did what was called for -- not unlike what the GOP did to Steve King in 2019.

Silence with detention or removal of opposition leaders.

Allow opposition leaders to set precedence.

Disrupt opposition leaders plans to secure votes from the common man.

Deflect responsibility to opposition leaders supporters and group.

And remove opposition in subsequent unrest from civil disobedience.

Run a clean message restoration of law and order.

Seize the keys to the power structure .

Secure government. State a constitutional convention is need to remedy the chaos. Create an inner circle. And seal power by right of might.

This what dictators do. Trump at the part where the ss his true supporters remove themselves from the S.A. the thugs side... He still hasn't got to supreme chancellor but so far so good.... Plan is being seen through.