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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 7:00 AM ET #1

im playing 3 tables of 1/2 NL
1 9 handed
2 short handed

mixing it up

up and down

9 handed table
utg limps
limpers in front of me
i limp with 99
nearly a family pot
pot is 15 bucks
flop is 6 9 j with 2 diamonds
UTG quickly pots
next to him calls
i straight shove for 170

folds around, UTG calls, other guy calls
UTG had AA, other guy 66, turn and river are both JJ

short handed about 40 mins later
got a stack of about 500 in front of me
utg limps
i pop to 11 with 3 5 hearts
button pops to 27 , he has 300 in front

utg folds
i call

flop is 4 6 7 with 2 clubs
i check
he pots it around 54
i tank and straight shove
he insta calls with AA

turn and river are both 4's

frustrating

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 7:49 AM ET #2

I can haz a cheezburgar?

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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 8:32 AM ET #3

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

I can haz a cheezburgar?

no wonder you have 30k posts in 2.5 years

get a life man

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MrGlue

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 1:00 PM ET #4

Bad beats for sure but we probably shouldn't be raising UTG limpers w/ 53s.

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 1:17 PM ET #5

Quote Originally Posted by badreligion:

no wonder you have 30k posts in 2.5 years

get a life man

hard for me to get a life when I constantly got to hear people cry about online poker

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 1:18 PM ET #6

Quote Originally Posted by MrGlue:

Bad beats for sure but we probably shouldn't be raising UTG limpers w/ 53s.

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runlagos

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 3:34 PM ET #7

Tough beats for sure. Keep getting your money in with the best hand like that and you will make money over the long haul (although its hard to not think about the short term beats).

Keep grindin

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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 2, 2011 - 11:06 PM ET #8

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

hard for me to get a life when I constantly got to hear people cry about online poker

that doesn't even make sense, sorry i got involved with a retard

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 6:13 AM ET #9

Quote Originally Posted by badreligion:

that doesn't even make sense, sorry i got involved with a retard

Apology accepted. Now continue on with your flawless pre flop poker skills with 5/3 preflop then bitch when a hand of yours gets beat you shoudlnt even of been in the first place you fartfaced poker fairy

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 6:16 AM ET #10

Man you guys I was in a 6 man tourny at the Bellagio the other night. Waiting around for the perfect hand to pound preflop and finally it comes. I get 1 and a 2 suited.

I re raise 600 preflop and get a caller.

Flop comes 3 4 5

BOom I hit the straight. I love it when I get a 1 and a 2 preflop I usually hit 3 4 and a 5 on flop. Anyways to make a long story short some loser with Pokcet kings called me and beat me with 7 kings.

Bullshit flopped a straight and get beat by 7 of a kind

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 6:17 AM ET #11

fuckin dork and his dork ass bad beats

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 6:24 AM ET #12

Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

Tough beats for sure. Keep getting your money in with the best hand like that and you will make money over the long haul (although its hard to not think about the short term beats).

Keep grindin

Excellent advice is all I can say. Keep getting your money in with the best hand?????????? How in the fuck is 3 5 suited preflop ever the best hand. Ughh. Im not even gonna comment farther its people like you guys is the reason why I THINK THERE IS MONEY TO ONLINE POKER.

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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 11:00 AM ET #13

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

Excellent advice is all I can say. Keep getting your money in with the best hand?????????? How in the fuck is 3 5 suited preflop ever the best hand. Ughh. Im not even gonna comment farther its people like you guys is the reason why I THINK THERE IS MONEY TO ONLINE POKER.

are you fucking retarded, seriously

the money went in after the flop

i feel sorry for your family, and would love to play poker with you, sorry I don't only raise AA

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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 11:14 AM ET #14

Quote Originally Posted by Iw1nBets:

Man you guys I was in a 6 man tourny at the Bellagio the other night. Waiting around for the perfect hand to pound preflop and finally it comes. I get 1 and a 2 suited.

I re raise 600 preflop and get a caller.

Flop comes 3 4 5

BOom I hit the straight. I love it when I get a 1 and a 2 preflop I usually hit 3 4 and a 5 on flop. Anyways to make a long story short some loser with Pokcet kings called me and beat me with 7 kings.

Bullshit flopped a straight and get beat by 7 of a kind

another useless post

continued success on racking up your post total as its pretty obvious your life revolves around covers

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DarkDanMan

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Posted: Feb. 3, 2011 - 8:30 PM ET #15

Dude... I will the first to admit that I suck at poker and even I know that 35s should be folded preflop. lw1nBets knows what he's talking about. You should listen to him.

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runlagos

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2011 - 10:55 AM ET #16

Quote Originally Posted by DarkDanMan:

Dude... I will the first to admit that I suck at poker and even I know that 35s should be folded preflop. lw1nBets knows what he's talking about. You should listen to him.

If you want yourself to be a good player, you have to open your range. Not saying you should play every hand or 3 5 all the time. You can't wait for just pocket pairs or suited connectors over a 10.

Poker is all situational based. Situations from the past hands that will help you evaluate what to do on the current and future hands.

Badreligion happened to play aggressive with the 3 5, flop the 2nd nut and gets it all in with the best hand at the time with a dominating percentage to hold up.

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MrGlue

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2011 - 11:21 AM ET #17

Quote Originally Posted by runlagos:

If you want yourself to be a good player, you have to open your range. Not saying you should play every hand or 3 5 all the time. You can't wait for just pocket pairs or suited connectors over a 10.

Poker is all situational based. Situations from the past hands that will help you evaluate what to do on the current and future hands.

Badreligion happened to play aggressive with the 3 5, flop the 2nd nut and gets it all in with the best hand at the time with a dominating percentage to hold up.

We don't have to open up our range to be a good player. In fact, many of us could benefit more by tightening up. There are lots of games (1/2 NL [live] included) where we CAN wait for PP's and suited face cards AND make money.

Do a statistical analysis of your play and I can guarantee you that almost ALL of your profit will come from PP's and suited broad ways. The majority of all your other hands will be losers.

OP raising an UTG limper w/ 53s was a mistake regardless of whether he flops/doesn't flop a straight or if his straight holds up/fails.

It is a mistake because our raise isn't likely to fold out better or get called by worse. It's even more unlikely that the UTG limper will fold because he'll be limping with hands he wants to play but is afraid to raise with. Hands like med/small pairs, smaller suited aces, and unsuited face cards... hands he won't fold to a standard raise.

Basically, OP's raise puts more money into a pot that we have very little chance of winning. Our only hope is to catch a miracle flop...

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2011 - 10:31 PM ET #18

Quote Originally Posted by DarkDanMan:

Dude... I will the first to admit that I suck at poker and even I know that 35s should be folded preflop. lw1nBets knows what he's talking about. You should listen to him.

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2011 - 10:31 PM ET #19

Quote Originally Posted by MrGlue:

We don't have to open up our range to be a good player. In fact, many of us could benefit more by tightening up. There are lots of games (1/2 NL [live] included) where we CAN wait for PP's and suited face cards AND make money.

Do a statistical analysis of your play and I can guarantee you that almost ALL of your profit will come from PP's and suited broad ways. The majority of all your other hands will be losers.

OP raising an UTG limper w/ 53s was a mistake regardless of whether he flops/doesn't flop a straight or if his straight holds up/fails.

It is a mistake because our raise isn't likely to fold out better or get called by worse. It's even more unlikely that the UTG limper will fold because he'll be limping with hands he wants to play but is afraid to raise with. Hands like med/small pairs, smaller suited aces, and unsuited face cards... hands he won't fold to a standard raise.

Basically, OP's raise puts more money into a pot that we have very little chance of winning. Our only hope is to catch a miracle flop...

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 4, 2011 - 10:32 PM ET #20

Quote Originally Posted by DarkDanMan:

Dude... I will the first to admit that I suck at poker and even I know that 35s should be folded preflop. lw1nBets knows what he's talking about. You should listen to him.

I fuckin love the Yadier Molina avatar of yours by the way

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BIGfnPOO

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2011 - 2:57 AM ET #21

those arent bad beats,....u had a chance top fold the 2nd hand 3-5 ....the 1st hand 99 u was beat preflop anr u know best hand in best out....

bigFnPOO

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Iw1nBets

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Posted: Feb. 5, 2011 - 10:19 PM ET #22

Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

those arent bad beats,....u had a chance top fold the 2nd hand 3-5 ....the 1st hand 99 u was beat preflop anr u know best hand in best out....

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scalabrine

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2011 - 10:39 AM ET #23

the commentary in these forums is an embarrassment...

OP, you played both hands perfectly obviously.

Anyone can scold you for playing 35 and losing to AA because you were beat pre-flop.

But when you play it to the river and make him get all his money in without that last 4, you'll be hailed as genius.

Almost all of us know when nits and rocks are playing a big overpair.

Our entire strategy is to outflop them (which you did) and make them get all their money in when they are huge underdogs, or play scare cards (i.e. 4 to a straight or 4 to a flush) when you have air to bluff them off the big hand.

Apparently, some of these posters don't understand that is one of the simplest concepts in profitable poker.

Thank god people are creative and play hands other than big pairs.

Playing and winning with a hand like 3/5 opens up the entire tables range and puts people on tilt. That's when the real money starts flying around.

A table of nits is the last table in the room you would ever want to sit at.

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badreligion

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Posted: Feb. 6, 2011 - 10:59 AM ET #24

Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

the commentary in these forums is an embarrassment...