NFL Final YTD: 128-101 56% (+117.86 units)
Wrong. Those units are false.
Way, way off! Not even half that many!
I tracked it all carefully. Mistakes made.
Documentation for corrections to follow
Wrong. Those units are false.
Way, way off! Not even half that many!
I tracked it all carefully. Mistakes made.
Documentation for corrections to follow
Wrong. Those units are false.
Way, way off! Not even half that many!
I tracked it all carefully. Mistakes made.
Documentation for corrections to follow
I'll be back with a factual update on that falsified record.
I'll be back with a factual update on that falsified record.
That is completely false.
In addition to being a Martingale styled pretend bettor, he also falsifies his records.
Here's the documentation that proves it, in sequential order, starting from week 13 where we agree his numbers were correct up until then:
Week 13:
Started week documented 76-61 +92.75 units (our numbers do match)
- 6.5 Dallas -2_U55 (-130) 5 units
+10.0 San Francisco 49ers ML (-125) 10 unit
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Dolphins -2.5_Broncos +10.5 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Steelers +1.5_Jacksonville -1.5 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Rams +3.5_Chiefs +1 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Steelers +1_Denver +10 10 unit
-13.0 3 team 10 pt teaser (-130) 49ers+7_ Steelers+4_Broncos +13 10 unit
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Titans+8_Buccaneers +3.5 10 unit
- 5.5 KC +4.5 *Live* 5 units
result 3-6 -34.0 units
Updated YTD becomes: 79-67 +58.75 units after week 13
That is completely false.
In addition to being a Martingale styled pretend bettor, he also falsifies his records.
Here's the documentation that proves it, in sequential order, starting from week 13 where we agree his numbers were correct up until then:
Week 13:
Started week documented 76-61 +92.75 units (our numbers do match)
- 6.5 Dallas -2_U55 (-130) 5 units
+10.0 San Francisco 49ers ML (-125) 10 unit
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Dolphins -2.5_Broncos +10.5 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Steelers +1.5_Jacksonville -1.5 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Rams +3.5_Chiefs +1 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Steelers +1_Denver +10 10 unit
-13.0 3 team 10 pt teaser (-130) 49ers+7_ Steelers+4_Broncos +13 10 unit
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Titans+8_Buccaneers +3.5 10 unit
- 5.5 KC +4.5 *Live* 5 units
result 3-6 -34.0 units
Updated YTD becomes: 79-67 +58.75 units after week 13
Week 14:
Started week documented 79-67 +58.75 units (our numbers still match!)
-24.0 ,Baltimore Ravens -7 (-120) **20 units**
-11.0 ,Kansas City Chiefs -3 (-110) 10 units
-11.0 ,Miami -12.5 (-110) 10 units
-5.75 ,Philadelphia Eagles +3.5 (-115 ) 5 units
+5.0 ,Chicago Bears +4 (-110) 5 units
-13.0 Teaser_7pts(-130) Eagles +10.5 _O44.5 10 units
-11.0 San Francisco -13.5 (-110) 10 units
+5.0 NYG +7 (-118) 5 units
+4.7 NYG ML +235 2 units
+1.0 *KC +8.5_Cinn +7.5_Browns +8 (*no units listed!!)
4-6 -60.05 units
Updated YTD becomes: 83-73 -1.30 units
Week 14:
Started week documented 79-67 +58.75 units (our numbers still match!)
-24.0 ,Baltimore Ravens -7 (-120) **20 units**
-11.0 ,Kansas City Chiefs -3 (-110) 10 units
-11.0 ,Miami -12.5 (-110) 10 units
-5.75 ,Philadelphia Eagles +3.5 (-115 ) 5 units
+5.0 ,Chicago Bears +4 (-110) 5 units
-13.0 Teaser_7pts(-130) Eagles +10.5 _O44.5 10 units
-11.0 San Francisco -13.5 (-110) 10 units
+5.0 NYG +7 (-118) 5 units
+4.7 NYG ML +235 2 units
+1.0 *KC +8.5_Cinn +7.5_Browns +8 (*no units listed!!)
4-6 -60.05 units
Updated YTD becomes: 83-73 -1.30 units
WEEK 15:
Started week documented YTD: 83-73 -1.30 units
+10.0 Bengals -2.5 (-130) 10 unit
- 5.5 Pittsburgh +1 (-110) 5 units
+10.0 Detroit -4.5 (-110) 10 unit
- 12.0 Green Bay -3 (-120) 10 unit
+10.0 Kansas City -7 (-129) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco -12 (-110) 10 unit
*pushed Cleveland Browns -3 (-110) 10 unit
- 11.0 Teaser_7pt (-110) NYJets+15_KC -2.5 10 unit
+10.0 Buffalo ML -130 10 unit
+10.0 SNF: Baltimore -3 (-130) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Seattle Seahawks +4.5 (-115) 10 unit
7-3-1 +41.5 units
Updated YTD becomes: 90-76 +40.20 units
WEEK 15:
Started week documented YTD: 83-73 -1.30 units
+10.0 Bengals -2.5 (-130) 10 unit
- 5.5 Pittsburgh +1 (-110) 5 units
+10.0 Detroit -4.5 (-110) 10 unit
- 12.0 Green Bay -3 (-120) 10 unit
+10.0 Kansas City -7 (-129) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco -12 (-110) 10 unit
*pushed Cleveland Browns -3 (-110) 10 unit
- 11.0 Teaser_7pt (-110) NYJets+15_KC -2.5 10 unit
+10.0 Buffalo ML -130 10 unit
+10.0 SNF: Baltimore -3 (-130) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Seattle Seahawks +4.5 (-115) 10 unit
7-3-1 +41.5 units
Updated YTD becomes: 90-76 +40.20 units
Here is where his claims differ from the documented record of his posts.
WEEK 16:
Start week documented YTD: 90-76 +40.20 units (our numbers match!)
He posted TNF: L.A. Rams -4 (-110) 10 unit
That pick won +10 units
Then in his next post
*WG Posted: Saturday Dec. 23, 2023 - 12:45 AM ET
he posted this totally ERRONEOUS CLAIM:
NFL YTD: 91-76 +65.6 units
Note that the wins-losses is accurately updated but not the units!
Here is where his claims differ from the documented record of his posts.
WEEK 16:
Start week documented YTD: 90-76 +40.20 units (our numbers match!)
He posted TNF: L.A. Rams -4 (-110) 10 unit
That pick won +10 units
Then in his next post
*WG Posted: Saturday Dec. 23, 2023 - 12:45 AM ET
he posted this totally ERRONEOUS CLAIM:
NFL YTD: 91-76 +65.6 units
Note that the wins-losses is accurately updated but not the units!
So, the blatant pretend bettor who uses a Martingale approach to manage his "units" in an attempt to not only look impressive and appear accomplished and successful to some gullible forum followers but to surpass those of any actually good handicappers on the forum in a very immature, childish "I'm the king of the castle" effort,
began week 16 accurately 90-76 +40.20 units
won a Thursday night pretend pick for +10 units
and now his record leaps to 91-76 +65.6 units ??? WTF?
So, the blatant pretend bettor who uses a Martingale approach to manage his "units" in an attempt to not only look impressive and appear accomplished and successful to some gullible forum followers but to surpass those of any actually good handicappers on the forum in a very immature, childish "I'm the king of the castle" effort,
began week 16 accurately 90-76 +40.20 units
won a Thursday night pretend pick for +10 units
and now his record leaps to 91-76 +65.6 units ??? WTF?
There's more about this fraud to follow but now is a good time to pause and review some basics.
Say YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for $100 bet
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 and a nice $100 profit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that I wagered $200, thereby winning $200
Do my "higher profit results" mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
There's more about this fraud to follow but now is a good time to pause and review some basics.
Say YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for $100 bet
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 and a nice $100 profit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that I wagered $200, thereby winning $200
Do my "higher profit results" mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
Say YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for $100 bet
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 and a nice $100 profit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that I wagered $200, thereby winning $200
Do my "higher profit results" mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
All intelligent persons would agree: "OF COURSE NOT!"
The amount of $$$ you supposedly bet is entirely up to you.
That is your "betting strategy" It is not your handicapping skill!
The wins/losses record is the prime indicator of handicapping skill.
The cash you "allege" to bet has nothing to do with it.
UNITS are merely a reflection of your cash bet relative to your usual bet amount.
So, likewise per the aforementioned example,
if YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for 1 unit
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 +1.0 unit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that my identical pick was for 2 units.
Does my "higher units result" from betting on that same single pick mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
Once again, no! OF COURSE NOT!
Say YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for $100 bet
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 and a nice $100 profit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that I wagered $200, thereby winning $200
Do my "higher profit results" mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
All intelligent persons would agree: "OF COURSE NOT!"
The amount of $$$ you supposedly bet is entirely up to you.
That is your "betting strategy" It is not your handicapping skill!
The wins/losses record is the prime indicator of handicapping skill.
The cash you "allege" to bet has nothing to do with it.
UNITS are merely a reflection of your cash bet relative to your usual bet amount.
So, likewise per the aforementioned example,
if YOU post a pick like, Steelers -2.5 +100 for 1 unit
The pick wins. Your record is 1-0 +1.0 unit
Now suppose I post the same pick at the same line as YOU,
but I declare that my identical pick was for 2 units.
Does my "higher units result" from betting on that same single pick mean my skill at picking winners is BETTER THAN YOURS???
Once again, no! OF COURSE NOT!
So, Wizerguy, the blatant pretend bettor who clearly uses a Martingale approach to manage his "units" in a vain attempt to not only look impressive and appear accomplished and successful to some gullible forum followers but to surpass those of any actually good handicappers on the forum in a very immature, childish "I'm the king of the castle" effort,
began week 16 accurately 90-76 +40.20 units
won a Thursday night pretend pick for +10 units
but now his record leaps to 91-76 +65.60 units ??? WTF?
this is too funny
More documentation facts of his cheating coming!
So, Wizerguy, the blatant pretend bettor who clearly uses a Martingale approach to manage his "units" in a vain attempt to not only look impressive and appear accomplished and successful to some gullible forum followers but to surpass those of any actually good handicappers on the forum in a very immature, childish "I'm the king of the castle" effort,
began week 16 accurately 90-76 +40.20 units
won a Thursday night pretend pick for +10 units
but now his record leaps to 91-76 +65.60 units ??? WTF?
this is too funny
More documentation facts of his cheating coming!
WEEK 16:
Start week documented YTD: 90-76 +40.20 units (our numbers match!)
He posted TNF: L.A. Rams -4 (-110) 10 unit
That pick won +10 units
Then in his next post
*WG Posted: Saturday Dec. 23, 2023 - 12:45 AM ET
he posted this totally ERRONEOUS CLAIM:
NFL YTD: 91-76 +65.6 units ???????????
So our story of pretend-bettor fraud continues from that point,
where his documented record should be: 91-76 +50.2 after TNF:
Saturday 12/23 4:30pm
-13.0 Bengals ML (-130) 10 unit
Sunday, Christmas Eve
-11.0 Jaguars +1.5 (-110) 10 unit
-13.0 Texans +3.5 (-130) 10 unit
-13.0 Eagles -11.5 (-130) 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Jags+8.5_Texans +10 10 unit
+10.0 Dallas Cowboys +3 (-135) 10 unit
-11.0 Minnesota Vikings +3 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Baltimore Ravens +6 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Teaser_7pt (-130) Ravens+13_Eagles-6 10 unit
4-6 -34.0 units
Accurate YTD should now be: 94-82 +6.20 units to carry over to week 17.
WEEK 16:
Start week documented YTD: 90-76 +40.20 units (our numbers match!)
He posted TNF: L.A. Rams -4 (-110) 10 unit
That pick won +10 units
Then in his next post
*WG Posted: Saturday Dec. 23, 2023 - 12:45 AM ET
he posted this totally ERRONEOUS CLAIM:
NFL YTD: 91-76 +65.6 units ???????????
So our story of pretend-bettor fraud continues from that point,
where his documented record should be: 91-76 +50.2 after TNF:
Saturday 12/23 4:30pm
-13.0 Bengals ML (-130) 10 unit
Sunday, Christmas Eve
-11.0 Jaguars +1.5 (-110) 10 unit
-13.0 Texans +3.5 (-130) 10 unit
-13.0 Eagles -11.5 (-130) 10 unit
-13.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Jags+8.5_Texans +10 10 unit
+10.0 Dallas Cowboys +3 (-135) 10 unit
-11.0 Minnesota Vikings +3 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Baltimore Ravens +6 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 MNF: Teaser_7pt (-130) Ravens+13_Eagles-6 10 unit
4-6 -34.0 units
Accurate YTD should now be: 94-82 +6.20 units to carry over to week 17.
WEEK 17. Start week documented YTD: 94-82 +6.20 units
-13.00 3 Team 10pt Bowl/NFL teaser combo (-130) Bowling Green +14_Rice +14.5_Philly -4 10 unit post #34
-13.00 3 Team 10pt NFL/Bowl combo teaser (-130) Bowling Green +14_Rice +14.5_ Ravens +16 10 unit post #35
-5.00 4 Team parlay+521 Bowling Green +4.5_Rice +4.5_Ravens +10.5_Eagles -7 (5 units to win 31 units) post #36
+10.0 Cleveland -7 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco -13.5 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco 49ers -10 (-150) 10 unit
*** No play on Baltimore!, post #59
-11.00 Miami Dolphins +3.5 (-110) 10 unit post #62
-13.00 Teaser_10pt (-130) Falcons +10_Chargers +10.5 10 unit post #63
-22.00 **Upgrading Dallas -6 is now ** 20 unit** post #64
-26.00 Teaser_7pt (-130) Miami +10.5_Pittsburgh +10 **20 unit** post #65
+20.0 Teaser_6pt (-120) San Fran -6.5_Dallas pk **20 unit** post #73
+10.0 Arizona +12 (-110) 10 unit
- 6.00 Carolina +4.5 (-120) 5 units
- 6.00 Tennessee +4.5 (-120) 5 units
+5.0 New England +14.5 (-120) 5 units
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Arizona +19_NE +21 10 unit
+10.0 Kansas City -6.5 (-110) 10 units
+10.0 Denver -2.5 (-110) 10 units
+10.0 Teaser_7pt(-130) Denver +4 + KC pk 10 units
-5.50 SNF: Minnesota +1 (-108 ) 5 units
10-10 -15.50
Updated YTD is now 104-92 -9.30 units
WEEK 17. Start week documented YTD: 94-82 +6.20 units
-13.00 3 Team 10pt Bowl/NFL teaser combo (-130) Bowling Green +14_Rice +14.5_Philly -4 10 unit post #34
-13.00 3 Team 10pt NFL/Bowl combo teaser (-130) Bowling Green +14_Rice +14.5_ Ravens +16 10 unit post #35
-5.00 4 Team parlay+521 Bowling Green +4.5_Rice +4.5_Ravens +10.5_Eagles -7 (5 units to win 31 units) post #36
+10.0 Cleveland -7 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco -13.5 (-110) 10 unit
+10.0 San Francisco 49ers -10 (-150) 10 unit
*** No play on Baltimore!, post #59
-11.00 Miami Dolphins +3.5 (-110) 10 unit post #62
-13.00 Teaser_10pt (-130) Falcons +10_Chargers +10.5 10 unit post #63
-22.00 **Upgrading Dallas -6 is now ** 20 unit** post #64
-26.00 Teaser_7pt (-130) Miami +10.5_Pittsburgh +10 **20 unit** post #65
+20.0 Teaser_6pt (-120) San Fran -6.5_Dallas pk **20 unit** post #73
+10.0 Arizona +12 (-110) 10 unit
- 6.00 Carolina +4.5 (-120) 5 units
- 6.00 Tennessee +4.5 (-120) 5 units
+5.0 New England +14.5 (-120) 5 units
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Arizona +19_NE +21 10 unit
+10.0 Kansas City -6.5 (-110) 10 units
+10.0 Denver -2.5 (-110) 10 units
+10.0 Teaser_7pt(-130) Denver +4 + KC pk 10 units
-5.50 SNF: Minnesota +1 (-108 ) 5 units
10-10 -15.50
Updated YTD is now 104-92 -9.30 units
Starts week 18 accurately documented 104-92 -9.30 units
**BUT MAKES THIS FALSE CLAIM NFL YTD 104-89 +64.1 units
Starts week 18 accurately documented 104-92 -9.30 units
**BUT MAKES THIS FALSE CLAIM NFL YTD 104-89 +64.1 units
Starts week 18 documented properly 104-92 -9.20 units
-2.16 Indy +1 (-108) 2 units
-11.0 Indianapolis Colts +1 (-110) 10 unit Hammer
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Indy +8.5__O40.5 10 units (upgraded)
+5.0 NYG +6 (-110) 5 units
+2.0 green Bay -2.5 (-110) 2 units
-2.2 LAC -3 (-110) 2 units
+2.0 Raiders -2.5 (-124) 2 units
-6.75 Baltimore +4.5 (-135) 5 units post #9
+2.0 Tennessee +5 (-110) 2 units
+3.0 Adding 3 units to Tennessee +4.5 (-115) post #10
+3.6** Tenn ML +180 2 units
+10.0 Tennesse +4(-110) 10 unit Hammer
+7.5** Tenn ML +150 5 units @+150
+5.0 Saints **Live -190 5 units
-26.00 3team 10pt teaser (-130) Saints +7_Colts +11_Pats +7.5 **20 unit **Max Wager**
+6.2** NYG +124 (Live) 5 units
+5.0 3 team 10pt teaser (-130) Raiders+7_Buffalo +7.5_NYG +15.5 5 units
+5.0 Buffalo -2 -130 5 units
+5.0 Adding: Buffalo -1.5 (-131) 5 units
14-5 +23.19 units
So his updated YTD to end reg season is 118-97 +13.99 units
But he falsely claims YTD: 118-94 (+87.2 units)
This may in fact be just one glaring example of how he fudges his records over the years!
Starts week 18 documented properly 104-92 -9.20 units
-2.16 Indy +1 (-108) 2 units
-11.0 Indianapolis Colts +1 (-110) 10 unit Hammer
+10.0 Teaser_7pt (-130) Indy +8.5__O40.5 10 units (upgraded)
+5.0 NYG +6 (-110) 5 units
+2.0 green Bay -2.5 (-110) 2 units
-2.2 LAC -3 (-110) 2 units
+2.0 Raiders -2.5 (-124) 2 units
-6.75 Baltimore +4.5 (-135) 5 units post #9
+2.0 Tennessee +5 (-110) 2 units
+3.0 Adding 3 units to Tennessee +4.5 (-115) post #10
+3.6** Tenn ML +180 2 units
+10.0 Tennesse +4(-110) 10 unit Hammer
+7.5** Tenn ML +150 5 units @+150
+5.0 Saints **Live -190 5 units
-26.00 3team 10pt teaser (-130) Saints +7_Colts +11_Pats +7.5 **20 unit **Max Wager**
+6.2** NYG +124 (Live) 5 units
+5.0 3 team 10pt teaser (-130) Raiders+7_Buffalo +7.5_NYG +15.5 5 units
+5.0 Buffalo -2 -130 5 units
+5.0 Adding: Buffalo -1.5 (-131) 5 units
14-5 +23.19 units
So his updated YTD to end reg season is 118-97 +13.99 units
But he falsely claims YTD: 118-94 (+87.2 units)
This may in fact be just one glaring example of how he fudges his records over the years!
Begins Wild card properly documented 118-97 +13.99
**Repeats his FALSE CLAIM NFL YTD 118-94 (+87.2 units)
+5.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Texans+9.5_ Tampa Bay +10 5 units
+2.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Texans +9.5_ O38 2 units
+2.5 Texans ML +125 2 units
- 2.2 Miami +5.5 (-110) 2 units
- 6.5 Teaser_7pt (-130) Dallas pk _over 45 *5 units
-11.0 Dallas -7 (-110) **10 unit Hammer
3-3 -10.20 units
AFTER WILDCARDS YTD 121-100 +3.79 units
Begins Wild card properly documented 118-97 +13.99
**Repeats his FALSE CLAIM NFL YTD 118-94 (+87.2 units)
+5.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Texans+9.5_ Tampa Bay +10 5 units
+2.0 Teaser_7pt (-130)Texans +9.5_ O38 2 units
+2.5 Texans ML +125 2 units
- 2.2 Miami +5.5 (-110) 2 units
- 6.5 Teaser_7pt (-130) Dallas pk _over 45 *5 units
-11.0 Dallas -7 (-110) **10 unit Hammer
3-3 -10.20 units
AFTER WILDCARDS YTD 121-100 +3.79 units
Begin DIVISIONAL playoffs weekend documented 121-100 +3.79 units
Curious back story to this weekend. Two other members had posted an open invite to other covers forum members to join them for fun and handicapping in Las Vegas for divisionals weekend. They announced they would be staying at the Bellagio and most likely spending much of their time during games at the MGM or Caesars. (I couldn't make it myself) For some weird reason the pretend-bettor-fraud trolled one of them over to another forum and boasted that he too would be in Vegas for the divisionals, and he too would be staying at the Bellagio, and if those guys wanted to join up with an actual GOOD handicapper (himself) and learn how it's done then they should contact him and he would allow them to kneel before him and kiss his ring (or something to that effect as I am paraphrasing)
But guess what the fraud posted here on divisionals Saturday?
Wizerguy
Posts: 32010
Posted: Jan 20 post #18 ~ NFL Divisional Round ~
Thanks fellas..like to thank everyone personally, but Im out snowplowing till 4pm/..ugh.
/forum/nfl-betting/nfl-divisional-round-103813616
Begin DIVISIONAL playoffs weekend documented 121-100 +3.79 units
Curious back story to this weekend. Two other members had posted an open invite to other covers forum members to join them for fun and handicapping in Las Vegas for divisionals weekend. They announced they would be staying at the Bellagio and most likely spending much of their time during games at the MGM or Caesars. (I couldn't make it myself) For some weird reason the pretend-bettor-fraud trolled one of them over to another forum and boasted that he too would be in Vegas for the divisionals, and he too would be staying at the Bellagio, and if those guys wanted to join up with an actual GOOD handicapper (himself) and learn how it's done then they should contact him and he would allow them to kneel before him and kiss his ring (or something to that effect as I am paraphrasing)
But guess what the fraud posted here on divisionals Saturday?
Wizerguy
Posts: 32010
Posted: Jan 20 post #18 ~ NFL Divisional Round ~
Thanks fellas..like to thank everyone personally, but Im out snowplowing till 4pm/..ugh.
/forum/nfl-betting/nfl-divisional-round-103813616
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