Anyone else love home dog BROWNS to kick the shit out of overrated Harbaugh ?

I love the Browns this weekend. Best bet.

In what part of the game do you feel the Brown have an advantage over the chargers?

@TJZags598

 WRs Rbs Defense

@usikbasterd

 Interesting

Strength of schedules:

Chargers 27-28

Browns: 28-34

Pretty even, maybe lean to chargers harder?

Lets look at the defenses:

Chargers:                                  Browns:

PPD-1.18                                  PPD-1.98

SppD-1.96                                SPPD-2.18

OutPerfm- 60.2%                       OutPerfm.-90.7%

Chargers give up 1.18 Points Per Drive, against teams scoring 1.96 Points per Drive, which is 60.2% of their normal average, pretty good.

Brown give up 1.98 Points Per Drives, against teams scoring 2.18 Points Per Drve, which is 90.7% of their normal average. Above DVOA

Simpler: The chargers have given up 9 Tds in 77 drives ( 12%) ; The Browns have given up 19 TDS in 94 Drives ( 20%)

My opinion: Charger defense is better, and its not close.

@ActionMagnet

 Love the Browns as well! I also love Seattle interdivision home dog!  What are your thoughts?

With all due respect, the Browns schedule has been much harder and it¡¯s not really even close. Looking at W/L record in this aspect is a fallacy. Look at who they played. The Chargers have played only one good team, the Chiefs. They also only scored 10 points against the Steelers. Bye, Denver, Arizona and 2nd string Saints isn¡¯t even close to @Washington, @Philly and tough division games against the Ravens and Bengals. Winston is going to play well again, I always liked that dudes personality. He seems like he¡¯s be fun to hangout with. He finally gets his shot in the NFL and shines. 

Chargers won¡¯t score 13 against the Browns defense. 

Winston > Watson

@NONEED4LUCK

 I mean, Winston was the #1 overall pick. He kind of got his shot in Tampa a long time ago. 

I think it'll be a close game, but I'd lean towards the Chargers just based on the situation of the Browns being in a prime spot for a let down game after a big win against a divisional rival with a QB that is known to be very streaky, and did get quite fortunate to escape several turnovers last week. 

Maybe but i dont see any value in the side here. I think both have a pretty good defense and so i elected to play u21.5 browns total anticipating a little regression from winston in game 2 and playing a much better defense. I think its going to be a tight and ugly game. So lean browns team total u21.5 and the game total under vs either side bc I can see either side winning a close ugly game like what we saw w Chargers vs Cardinals

@usikbasterd

 Defense is chargers. That¡¯s why they are winning. 

You should have predicted this last week.

@NONEED4LUCK

 i respect you. I ca appreciate where you are coming from at face value.

I rate each teams offense on 25 different categories, and each teams strength of schedule based on those offenses.

My numbers say, the strength of their schedule offense, (also do defense special teams):

Chargers:69.41

Browns:68.52

So, the chargers have played the better offensive schedule overall.

My defensive ratings:

Chargers 100

Browns:85.61

Lets keep in mind, Winston is going from playing the number 32 ranked passing defense, to the #3 passing defense.

I have the steelers ranked as my #3 over all defense, Cleveland is 20.

But, they play the games for a reason.

Good luck!

Listen to what you are saying? Teams pick number one for a reason, they were the absolute worst team in the NFL the previous year. Does not create a recipe for success. Tell that to Baker Mayfield. Or Sam Darnold. Do you think any rookie will have success in their first year playing for the worst team in the nfl the previous year?! Hell no

Probably because if it quacks like a duck and  walks like a duck its probably a duck.. And Winston is way over due for his INT rate to soar.. Against Balty he had a horseshoe up his arse he should have had 3 or 4 picks that  were dropped or misplayed..  Announcer even commented " how many times have we said that should have been picked "... A zebra dont lose his stripes..  Best bet of the week Winston throws a INT no matter the odds..  PS took the browns vs balty so not sour grapes feel blessed.. My take at least 2...

@TJZags598

 I think the Chargers have a great defense but all lack the offense on the road against the second best D they have seen when they only could muster 10 points against top competition. Good luck. At least one of us will win. lol. 

@TJZags598

 But why are the Ravens 32nd? They have had huge leads and basically given up in those games while being gassed. They just haven¡¯t cared much with 20-30 point leads in the second half. Those are pretty much garbage time numbers against the Ravens. 

@NONEED4LUCK

Every metric says they are horrible. I dont have enough time, or space here to breakdown all the stats

 The Ravens didn't care when the Raiders won the game against them?

They didnt care when the Browns won last week?

Two of the worst offense drove the field against them. multiple times

Really?

How many times THIS year have the Ravs had a 20 pts lead in the second half?

nope

@TJZags598

 Yes the Ravens give up in the 4th Q. Look at their first half and second half stats. There is a reason. Chargers may win but it will be difficult. Good luck with your play. 

Stefanski > Harbaugh 

Browns will stifle his ancient Greg Roman style offense. 

Give me the Brownies this weekend baby.

Another reason Browns D may not look good overall is because Watson was the worst qb in NFL history and the Browns D suffered from his awful play

This, this, and this.

It's all you need to know.

@KarmaStateU2024

 Good Point. It certainly is a factor in field position/

I just dont think Winston can handle the Charger D

Browns missing 2 starting LBs and CB Wade hasn¡¯t cleared CP yet so he may not play

OTOH Chark may get his first start, an X receiver who can stretch the field for the Bolts

it could be a tough spot for browns but BOL 

I think its a good bet.