Oliver Stones Untold history of the United States

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Episode 1 Thursday Nov 15th @ 8:00 pm est

Episode 2 Monday Nov 19th @ 8:00 pm est

watched episode 1 and thought it was a good "Cliffs Notes" overview of WWII esp the war between Germany and the Soviet Union which really isn't covered that much in American history classes. too bad the late 70's "The Unknown War" series about "The Great Patriotic War", as the Russians call WWII, which was narrated by Burt Lancaster, has been lost to history. remember seeing it on PBS back then and it was excellent.

only compaint I have is the Mrs and I though Stone's narration was kind of weak BUT speaking has never really been his strong suit

Episode 2 about Henry Wallace, who was FDR's VP his first three terms, was interesting political history that I didn't know before. also all the "back door deals" the US and Britain did with Stalin which doomed the Eastern European countries to half a century of Soviet style dictatorship.

looking forward to Episode 3 "The Bomb" next week. I will bet you that Stone will argue that using the two atomic bombs on Japan was unnecessary to end the war

Next week should be even more fantastical...Hey they got me hooked anyway

have heard a lot of arguments that the real "straw that broke the Japs back" was the Soviet Union entering the war and NOT the two atomic bombs.

I personally don't give a DAMN what ended WWII without an invasion of Japan because it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives and probably a million or more Japanese. my father was a Naval Aviator back then and I had two uncles in the Army that probably would have been in the invasion force. no matter what "history re-writers" want to say, Truman using the bomb just maybe saved their lives 

It is also true that there were MANY more Russians killed than person and Americans..but the media focuses on certain groups for obvious reasons.

more Russians died just in the Siege of Leningrad (just over 1 million) than died from the United States and the United Kingdom in WWII  (970 thousand) combined

as I said before, it's too bad the late 70's "The Unknown War" series, which was narrated by Burt Lancaster, has been lost to history. it was a 20 part series that went into "The Great Patriotic War", as the Russians called WWII, with much more detail than any other  documentary like the British produced "World at War".

Curious to think if Wallace had been president instead of Truman. Better or worse? I came out of this wondering that? Wallace? Hmmm?

I am pretty sure that IF Henry Wallace had been president and gotten his policies thru, the United States would probably be more like a European "Socialist" country with universal healthcare and other govenment social programs. also think ANY American President would have been "forced" to use the A-Bomb to end the war in the Pacific without an invasion of Japan.

and as for Truman's "racism", you have to remember the time he lived in.