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statsboy

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Joined: Nov, 2012

Posts: 7

Posted: Nov. 9, 2012 - 10:00 PM ET #201

Quote Originally Posted by mafioso:

I fear nothing, Always been my problem in life, but the issue isnt the moron who goes about bragging about what he won, the issue here statboy is you said YOU KNOW GUYS WHO WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO HIT BIG SO THEY CAN ROB HIM.

I know it aint disneyland, but if I knew of any motherfuckers doing what you say they are doing, I wouldnt hesitate to get these fucks locked up or even better dead.

90% of the visitors on this forum deal with illegal bookies and thjey have seen their illegal bookies do bad things too people who don't pay up. I don't go around asking everyone who I heard or thought committed a crime if they did. Unsavory people are not my best friends but living in Vegas for years or any town you see fvcked up things. I don't condone bad behavior but I don't go around questioning Tony Soprano if he committed a crime.

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mafioso

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Posts: 2664

Posted: Nov. 10, 2012 - 3:43 AM ET #202

Last reply here, You said
You know guys who wait for someone to hit big so they can take them down
Correct? You did say that right?

My question
Do you really know some scumbag motherfuckers who do this?
Or did you mean, there are scumbags that do this?

If you know motherfuckers that do this, then you have a moral obligation to turn these fuckers in before it goes bad and some innocent person gets killed.
If you meant that there are scumbags that do this then yes I agree, there are lowlife peices of shit that prey on innocent people and since we do not know them, we cant do anything about it.

If you feel you do not have a moral obligation to turn in scum than that is between you, god and your own conscience.

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reef212000

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Joined: Nov, 2009

Posts: 12

Posted: Nov. 14, 2012 - 2:56 AM ET #203

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

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topperchris

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Joined: Aug, 2005

Posts: 1324

Posted: Nov. 15, 2012 - 7:02 PM ET #204

Good Info Reef..Where is our boy..Hope hes winning...

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don juan

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Posts: 5545

Posted: Nov. 15, 2012 - 10:48 PM ET #205

If you guys in Vegas had taken my advice over the last 12 years, you'd be way ahead.. I'm retired and in my 70s and have seen every Superbowl in history.

I posted here the last 12 Superbowl winners against the spread.

My record is 11-1 right here on Covers/Wagerline. Ask around here and it will be confirmed for you.

If you are wise you will save some money for the big game in February. It's the easiest game to handicap because both teams are rested for 2 weeks and giving their all, from the head coach on down to the waterboy.

I can't help but boast a little because it's quite a feat, I am the greatest Superbowl handicapper around today, and I'm glad to help you young studs, For FREE !

Farewell... look me up in February, ( God willing, I'll still be around here )

When you think of the Superbowl, think Don Juan.

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statsboy

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Joined: Nov, 2012

Posts: 7

Posted: Nov. 18, 2012 - 12:03 AM ET #206

Quote Originally Posted by reef212000:

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

Good post to give people some true accounts on living in Vegas.
Sometimes the truth hurts but at least everyone gets another perspective. I believe in the Vegas dream but once you get in the arena and get punched strategy changes. My view is you have to use progressive bets at times and treat some games with more value than others. Blackjack players use a counting system and when the deck is hot they go big. Sports to me is no different, no professional blackjack player would bet the same amount on every hand, they would not make any money.

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Quote Originally Posted by reef212000:

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

Good post to give people some true accounts on living in Vegas.
Sometimes the truth hurts but at least everyone gets another perspective. I believe in the Vegas dream but once you get in the arena and get punched strategy changes. My view is you have to use progressive bets at times and treat some games with more value than others. Blackjack players use a counting system and when the deck is hot they go big. Sports to me is no different, no professional blackjack player would bet the same amount on every hand, they would not make any money.

nekonaga

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Joined: Oct, 2011

Posts: 35

Posted: Nov. 20, 2012 - 3:13 AM ET #207

if you think living the dream is gamiling for a living is a dream try it for awhile its way harder than having a job and very stressful becuase you know yoiu have to win if you dont believe me test the thery go to the nearest casino near you and have all your bills paid if you want except say your rent say it 750.00 take it to the casino and lay it on a game knowing if you win great but what if you lose there goes the rent! well its just like that but its for all your bills i think enough money for the dream is when you have money that is above paying you bills and you and try to make it with that amount thats the only way to do it and be suscessful and you and do that sitting at home with a job open up a spots book on line book and go that way1 that way you will see how it goes first and how really hard it is! that what i do and most the time im really lucky but 1 bad week is hell! and its hard to recover and keep going! try this way first and test your kills ! dont bother try winning at the table games or you wont last but a short time i dont care how bug your bankroll is! have fun qand the best of luck!!!!

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machop1

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Joined: Jul, 2006

Posts: 3

Posted: Nov. 20, 2012 - 8:56 PM ET #208

What are the current super bowl odds per team
(ie New eng 5-1)
Who's the current favorite?

Ma

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ShadowWarrior

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Joined: Nov, 2002

Posts: 7112

Posted: Nov. 21, 2012 - 1:16 PM ET #209

SF looks good with CK! Gronk is hurt so there goes NE. GB, NYG, Atl, Balt., and maybe Denver should be up there. Chi. With no Cutler, sorry. Oh and there is Houston.

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Smellyhawk

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Joined: Nov, 2009

Posts: 22

Posted: Nov. 22, 2012 - 1:08 AM ET #210

Great insight into living the dream. To make it wagering on sports there is one thing that is being overlooked, patience. I've wagered on sports most of my adult life and I am my own worst emeny. You can't wager every night, you need to pick your spots. I truly believe you should never risk more than 10% of your roll on any one bet and if you have more than one game to play you split that 10% amongst your plays. Patience, the key to success!

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intel1

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Joined: Nov, 2008

Posts: 537

Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 4:04 PM ET #211

It seems the people who want to live the the dream can't afford it and those that could choose to live their dream in some other way. Many posts have been made over the years about this topic and always the OP seems to have unrealistic expectations about the level of commitment and resources required to carry it out.

Lem Banker, perhaps the most notable sports bettor to have lived said more than once, on air and in print, it's virtually impossible to make it as a pro. Even if you could the quality of life you'll experience isn't worth it. Banker admits that he himself took enormous risks with his BR many times and was extremely fortunate to win virtually every time he really had to. This is very rare and had even one of those all-in bets not come thru none of us would ever have heard of Lem. Also Banker made his fortune from about the mid-60s to mid-80s when middling was a viable possibility. With independent oddsmakers long gone from the scene this is no longer available.

I think a more realistic notion for most of us who love to wager is to make it a supplement to our normal work or incomes rather than the sole means. You can still take shots with the BR every once in a while when something great comes along but still have something to fall back on if it doesn't pan out for you. Apparently some people aren't satisfied going this route and choose to take on a daunting task. Certainly part of human experience is challenging ourselves and proving conventional wisdom wrong or not wholly accurate. This has expanded human knowledge and broadened our ideas about our potential thru out history and sports bettors have a right to apply that to this field as well. I wish them the best and am as fascinated as the next guy to hear their accounts.

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300greekspartan

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Joined: Nov, 2012

Posts: 369

Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 8:55 PM ET #212

Where do you need 100,000 to live at in vegas the taj majal vip?

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300greekspartan

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Joined: Nov, 2012

Posts: 369

Posted: Nov. 23, 2012 - 8:56 PM ET #213

1,250 square foot nice little condo is about 1 k per month. so 12k. Get a roomate. 6 k.

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reconnoiter

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Joined: Dec, 2011

Posts: 642

Posted: Nov. 25, 2012 - 6:05 AM ET #214

interesting topic. I live in Vegas, and know of a few people (teams) who you all are referring to. some used to frequent an establishment i work at. To the poster who said there were no success stories posted, I lol. I know first hand that those guys will never make public what they do or how they got there.

the successful ones are run like a business. You guys make it sound like its one guy who goes around and makes the bets lol. there are different levels of pros i have met. They are very secretive and dont trust many people.

Yes there not many people because its not easy! haha One explained it to me, if you can survive the first year you have passed your first test. If you have a good team, you are set.

you guys make it seem like its impossible, it is not. if it was easy Everyone would do it

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jerkem11

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Joined: Jan, 2010

Posts: 243

Posted: Nov. 25, 2012 - 9:49 PM ET #215

Just read these posts for the first time tonight and think its pretty interesting... Good luck newyorkslim.. I have some stories to add from personal experience i will share later if this posts continue.. keep us informed slim

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pointsspread

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Joined: Jan, 2007

Posts: 180

Posted: Nov. 26, 2012 - 6:26 AM ET #216

66000

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topperchris

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Posts: 1324

Posted: Nov. 26, 2012 - 7:39 PM ET #217

At this point i would bet against ARZ Cards every week...

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Crashdavis565

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Posted: Nov. 27, 2012 - 6:18 PM ET #218

Quote Originally Posted by reef212000:

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

honest enough

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renorunner2

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Joined: Jul, 2011

Posts: 226

Posted: Nov. 28, 2012 - 4:00 AM ET #219

honestly I think anyone who uses any of these lame covers avatars are just lazy of dumb, just sayin...

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statsboy

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Joined: Nov, 2012

Posts: 7

Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 4:03 PM ET #220

Just wanna add that it is now so much info now for sports gamblers that if you study do your homework, be PATIENT and pick your spots you can make a fortune. Internet, cable we are bombarded with info. My biggest down fall and I'm not a generate is being patient at times.

One thing I believe in that you have to vary your bets at times you can bet single units, use 1 star and 2 star bets like some games 100 bucks and bets bets 200 bucks. That is conservative enough and do a tally of your monthly results. I gambled over the years and sometimes when you get the itch go out run, watch a movie get away if you feel a little compulsive.

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nosepickgames

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Joined: May, 2010

Posts: 2

Posted: Nov. 29, 2012 - 10:27 PM ET #221

I like some of ur stories,,,,,but what happened to the guy the forum was all about.....didnt believe any of his posts anyway....

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Dutch1976

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Posts: 1924

Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 4:17 AM ET #222

$100 dollars a day isn't even enough to pay for the c-c-cocaine!

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seowon

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Joined: Nov, 2004

Posts: 57

Posted: Nov. 30, 2012 - 6:29 PM ET #223

Quote Originally Posted by judgelee:

TBH whatever amount or bankroll you have, it never seems enough.

I totally agree w/ you. I can't even make a budge for a week trip for Vegas. Never seems to be enough.

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Michfan15

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Joined: Oct, 2008

Posts: 11310

Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 4:16 AM ET #224

Quote Originally Posted by statsboy:

Just wanna add that it is now so much info now for sports gamblers that if you study do your homework, be PATIENT and pick your spots you can make a fortune. Internet, cable we are bombarded with info. My biggest down fall and I'm not a generate is being patient at times.

One thing I believe in that you have to vary your bets at times you can bet single units, use 1 star and 2 star bets like some games 100 bucks and bets bets 200 bucks. That is conservative enough and do a tally of your monthly results. I gambled over the years and sometimes when you get the itch go out run, watch a movie get away if you feel a little compulsive.

this is actually so on point

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Michfan15

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Posts: 11310

Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 4:19 AM ET #225

Quote Originally Posted by reef212000:

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

i appreciate your honesty as one poster mentioned before but im more curiuos if this is - more or less the life story of the average covers user because i think its pretty sad that after working in such a reputable industry you are having such a hard time finding a new job and whats even more concerning is your lack of motivation...you worekd in accountign and i think its a fair assumption that you must have a bachelors degree or at least some college completed...literally makes no sense why you cant get a job to at least supplant some of your gambling money with a constant stream of income

again i wouldn't be surprised if this story hits home with most users on this site

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Quote Originally Posted by reef212000:

Here is my story, I got laid off from my accounting job in the Bay area Feb 2009 and I decided to foreclose on my townhouse at the end of 09 and move to Vegas and take my 45 k bankroll with me

I moved to Vegas in Jan 2010 and I was collecting unemployment for the first yr and a half as well as playing low level poker 1-2 no limit and betting sports very small

My unemployment stopped in mid 2011 and I have just been playing poker and betting sports since then. My monthly nut to crack is about 1000

I think it is pretty damned hard to make 100 a day gambling. I am pretty disciplined and keep track of every poker session and sports bet made. I am only averaging about 650 a month in gambling profit for the year so my bankroll is going down a little. The highest it was at the height of my unemployment collecting was about 60 k and now it is about 40 k

I am kind of lazy and dont want to look for a job so I will probably play my bankroll down to about 30k then look for work

I think you can make it out here gambling but you need a decent bankroll and u need to be focused and disciplined. I do it for small stakes and the swings are still big thats why I cant even avg 50 dollars a day gambling

I keep my goals the same try to make 50 dollars a day and even that is very difficult. I have never been good at sports gambling that is why I prefer to play more poker.

If anyone has any questions about moving to Vegas and living the so called dream fire away and I will give u my opinion

Reef

i appreciate your honesty as one poster mentioned before but im more curiuos if this is - more or less the life story of the average covers user because i think its pretty sad that after working in such a reputable industry you are having such a hard time finding a new job and whats even more concerning is your lack of motivation...you worekd in accountign and i think its a fair assumption that you must have a bachelors degree or at least some college completed...literally makes no sense why you cant get a job to at least supplant some of your gambling money with a constant stream of income

again i wouldn't be surprised if this story hits home with most users on this site

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