Sharps have absolutely pounded unc 68 percent of spread on 71 percent moneyline on wake and all the money is on UNC¡ with good reason position to position UNC is essentially better at every position.. wake forest signature win is 3 point win to Syracuse .. they got in a shoot out they easily could have lost to army .. that¡¯s all you need to know
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@Vegas11787
Sharps have absolutely pounded unc 68 percent of spread on 71 percent moneyline on wake and all the money is on UNC¡ with good reason position to position UNC is essentially better at every position.. wake forest signature win is 3 point win to Syracuse .. they got in a shoot out they easily could have lost to army .. that¡¯s all you need to know
Your logic is out of context when you look at schedules the argument you are making is a joke .. UNC has played a couple decent teams wake forest has not
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@wfufanatic
Your logic is out of context when you look at schedules the argument you are making is a joke .. UNC has played a couple decent teams wake forest has not
Biggest Tar Heel fan you'll find. I'm scared to touch this game but you'll see pinball numbers. I haven't been on here in a year or two, but back doing some online betting. UNC will win by 4
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Biggest Tar Heel fan you'll find. I'm scared to touch this game but you'll see pinball numbers. I haven't been on here in a year or two, but back doing some online betting. UNC will win by 4
They are both ACC teams it doesn’t matter if it’s non sanctioned lol both ACC teams .. it’s really irrelevant .. conferences non conference .. it’s a rivalry game … both teams could care less .. what do you think there going in saying this is non sanctioned let’s go out with a B game plan and B effort … if the coach and players decided that on Monday that they would go with the B game plan and B effort kudos to them
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@steponaduck
They are both ACC teams it doesn’t matter if it’s non sanctioned lol both ACC teams .. it’s really irrelevant .. conferences non conference .. it’s a rivalry game … both teams could care less .. what do you think there going in saying this is non sanctioned let’s go out with a B game plan and B effort … if the coach and players decided that on Monday that they would go with the B game plan and B effort kudos to them
@steponaduck They are both ACC teams it doesn¡¯t matter if it¡¯s non sanctioned lol both ACC teams .. it¡¯s really irrelevant .. conferences non conference .. it¡¯s a rivalry game ¡ both teams could care less .. what do you think there going in saying this is non sanctioned let¡¯s go out with a B game plan and B effort ¡ if the coach and players decided that on Monday that they would go with the B game plan and B effort kudos to them
@supermanbets
you clearly missed what I was saying.
I was making the argument that wake forest would NOT be overlooking UNC, and because it is a rivalry game they would be fully focused and give 100% A grade effort.
I believe wake will win.
Until the wallet is full.
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Quote Originally Posted by supermanbets:
@steponaduck They are both ACC teams it doesn¡¯t matter if it¡¯s non sanctioned lol both ACC teams .. it¡¯s really irrelevant .. conferences non conference .. it¡¯s a rivalry game ¡ both teams could care less .. what do you think there going in saying this is non sanctioned let¡¯s go out with a B game plan and B effort ¡ if the coach and players decided that on Monday that they would go with the B game plan and B effort kudos to them
@supermanbets
you clearly missed what I was saying.
I was making the argument that wake forest would NOT be overlooking UNC, and because it is a rivalry game they would be fully focused and give 100% A grade effort.
@IncognitoZR "Wake basically plays horrible D and NC ain't too much better." I'm pretty tired of this narrative. And to say UNC is better on D is patently false. Scoring Defense: Wake 23.8 ppg vs UNC 30.8 ppg Team Sacks: Wake is T14th in the country and sacks the QB 3 times per game vs UNC T85th with 1.88 (this will come into play big time on Saturday, as Wake is T30th in the country allowing 1.5 sacks per game vs UNC 126th! (5th lowest in the country) allowing 3.88 sacks per game). Red Zone Defense: Wake is T18th, opponents are 18-24 (15 TDs, 3 FGs) for 75%. UNC T60th, opponents are 28-34 (18 TDs, 10 FGs) at 82.4%. Penalties Per Game (not exclusively a defensive stat, but it plays into it): Wake T29th in the country averaging 5.12 penalties/game for 46.12 yds vs UNC T103rd with 7.25 penalties/game for 68.5 yards Turnover Margin: Wake is 4th in the country, having forced 17 and lost 7 (+10) vs UNC 69th (nice) in the country, having forced 11 and lost 11 Third Down Conversion defense is relatively similar and neither is very good (Wake 85th vs UNC 91st), but Fourth Down Conversion defense is a different story, with Wake T18th vs UNC T84th. Now we come to the stat where I think most people are getting the impression that Wake is an "atrocious defense" (to put it in the words of Joey Galloway on the CFP Rankings show). Wake is 99th in the country in Total Defense, giving up 421.5 yds/game vs UNC 76th giving up 396.6 yds/game. Ok, so be it. They give up a lot of yards, but that is a product of a few things: 1) They play at such a fast pace on offense that the defense is on the field a ton, and will give up more yards. 2) They play something close to a bend but don't break defense, forcing the other team to rack up yards as they march down the field, only to bow up in the Red Zone (again T18th in Red Zone Defense) and make it tough to score. Continued:
This is why I don't overanalyze games. You tend to get caught up on a particular trend or stat and you can't get past it no matter what else you look at.
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Quote Originally Posted by wfufanatic:
@IncognitoZR "Wake basically plays horrible D and NC ain't too much better." I'm pretty tired of this narrative. And to say UNC is better on D is patently false. Scoring Defense: Wake 23.8 ppg vs UNC 30.8 ppg Team Sacks: Wake is T14th in the country and sacks the QB 3 times per game vs UNC T85th with 1.88 (this will come into play big time on Saturday, as Wake is T30th in the country allowing 1.5 sacks per game vs UNC 126th! (5th lowest in the country) allowing 3.88 sacks per game). Red Zone Defense: Wake is T18th, opponents are 18-24 (15 TDs, 3 FGs) for 75%. UNC T60th, opponents are 28-34 (18 TDs, 10 FGs) at 82.4%. Penalties Per Game (not exclusively a defensive stat, but it plays into it): Wake T29th in the country averaging 5.12 penalties/game for 46.12 yds vs UNC T103rd with 7.25 penalties/game for 68.5 yards Turnover Margin: Wake is 4th in the country, having forced 17 and lost 7 (+10) vs UNC 69th (nice) in the country, having forced 11 and lost 11 Third Down Conversion defense is relatively similar and neither is very good (Wake 85th vs UNC 91st), but Fourth Down Conversion defense is a different story, with Wake T18th vs UNC T84th. Now we come to the stat where I think most people are getting the impression that Wake is an "atrocious defense" (to put it in the words of Joey Galloway on the CFP Rankings show). Wake is 99th in the country in Total Defense, giving up 421.5 yds/game vs UNC 76th giving up 396.6 yds/game. Ok, so be it. They give up a lot of yards, but that is a product of a few things: 1) They play at such a fast pace on offense that the defense is on the field a ton, and will give up more yards. 2) They play something close to a bend but don't break defense, forcing the other team to rack up yards as they march down the field, only to bow up in the Red Zone (again T18th in Red Zone Defense) and make it tough to score. Continued:
This is why I don't overanalyze games. You tend to get caught up on a particular trend or stat and you can't get past it no matter what else you look at.
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