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mainman11111

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Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 6:20 PM ET #1

totally agree. trump cant do it.

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dl36

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Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 6:47 PM ET #2

Ok before I put much stock into this. Did he say that before or after the debates?

Anyone could sit back and watch Deceptive Donald fire off lie after lie or watch as he came out strong in the first few minutes and then wilted as he lacked the stamina to hold it together and not become unglued and say it was a bad idea.

But to make that reccomendation before hand seems like a good prediction knowing that Trump would go down in flames

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Mikael99

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Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 6:51 PM ET #3

After the debate.

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Skipster

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Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 8:27 PM ET #4

Coward. Wuss. Chicken. Pansy. It's too easy. He'll have to show up.

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Posted: Sep. 27, 2016 - 9:05 PM ET #5

Quote Originally Posted by LAWandORDER:

Can Hillary please smile less?

What's up SportsFan?

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Europa

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 12:30 AM ET #6

Rudy Giuliani should quit himself as Trump's adviser, what a poor job he has to present for Trump in prep for last night's debate. Dude is doing harm than good in Trump's campaign.

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Hugh_Jorgan

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 7:22 AM ET #7

Well played, mainman, well played. You have deceived quite nicely.

Here is what Giuliani actually said ...

��If I were Donald Trump, I wouldn��t participate in another debate unless I was promised that a journalist would act like a journalist and not an incorrect, ignorant fact checker,��

When you have nothing of substance to add, simply make something up, or completely take a quote out of context. You have mastered liberalism 101. Well done

bigreds daddy

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ClubDirt

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 9:51 AM ET #8

i'd be surprised if trump skipped the next debate. maybe if this moderator was particularly hard on him and he could argue that the debates are biased, but going to giuliani's point, what was the moderator incorrect about?

i only saw and heard the highlights but i saw holt call trump out when trump said stop and frisk wasn't found unconstitutional by a court (it was) and when trump still was going with this idea that hillary started this birther nonsense (she didn't).

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JimmyDrizzl

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 11:21 AM ET #9

Looking forward to next debate...Trump will show up as he wants to improve on his first semi-weak performance.

However, Trump should be painfully aware next time that hillwitch is not there to play nice...so...NO SHAKING HER HAND before or after....ALL business....she is the enemy.... she lies and cheats as good as anyone ever in history..

AND, did anyone think lester would not lie and cheat as well....He said the questions were not divulged to anyone..ha....Nobody concerned about the fate of the country should ever watch his newscast ever again.

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dl36

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 1:45 PM ET #10

I disagree in that trump should shake her hand and look presidential the whole time alotted rather than looking like he lacks the Temperment and Stamina to function in the debates let alone being the president.

Jimmy, you say trump hand a semi-weak performance, what exactly is it that makes it semi-weak when it came to the actual issues and policies trump put forth or failed to?

Or are you saying it is semi-weak because he didn't engage in his emotional angry character defamation like he always reverts to under stress?

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JimmyDrizzl

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 1:55 PM ET #11

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

I disagree in that trump should shake her hand and look presidential the whole time alotted rather than looking like he lacks the Temperment and Stamina to function in the debates let alone being the president.

Jimmy, you say trump hand a semi-weak performance, what exactly is it that makes it semi-weak when it came to the actual issues and policies trump put forth or failed to?

Or are you saying it is semi-weak because he didn't engage in his emotional angry character defamation like he always reverts to under stress?

Trumps performance was semi weak because he was on the defensive way too much in the last hour of the "debate"

Hillwitch and her lying corrupt comrade dolt holt collaborated to pressure Trump with personal insults and dumb questions to distract from the real issues..... It was two against one and Trump, not being a professional politician could not overcome the lies and bias to perform as well as he should have.

Next time will be better for him as he now knows how the dims lie and cheat at will.

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dl36

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 2:23 PM ET #12

So Hillary was the leader and trump was the follower.

I get it. Hillary is the better leader.

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dl36

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Posted: Sep. 28, 2016 - 2:36 PM ET #13

Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

Rudy Giuliani should quit himself as Trump's adviser, what a poor job he has to present for Trump in prep for last night's debate. Dude is doing harm than good in Trump's campaign.

Perhaps this is the truth of the comment. Trump looked unprepared and came unglued because of Giuliani failing to prepare him. Or Giuliani did what he needed to but trump is to dense to absorb what he needs to and too emotional to have the Temperment and stamina to execute the game plan.

Either way Giuliani is looking more and more like a true trump supporter here. It's really a cultural thing of character of those that take personal responsibility and accountability for their lives and those that point the finger, scape goat and blame everything and anything but themselves and play the victim.

So notice how much talk there is about perceived unfairness and injustice and how that must explain for the outcomes. Playing the victim. Right out of the Al Sharpton playbook. Not sure why these trump supporters are so dependent upon playing the victim,but like I said it's a cultural. That is how they function in never taking personal responsibility and they support their candidate in the same manner, never manning up and always making excuses and crying out injustice and unfairness.

That's not making America great. Seem so anti-GOP to bitchh and moan and complain and carry on about unfairness rather than rolling up your sleeves and pulling yourself up by your boot straps. No wonder so many real GOPs don't align with trump, his supporters and their victim mentality

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Europa

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Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 1:01 AM ET #14

Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Perhaps this is the truth of the comment. Trump looked unprepared and came unglued because of Giuliani failing to prepare him. Or Giuliani did what he needed to but trump is to dense to absorb what he needs to and too emotional to have the Temperment and stamina to execute the game plan.

Either way Giuliani is looking more and more like a true trump supporter here. It's really a cultural thing of character of those that take personal responsibility and accountability for their lives and those that point the finger, scape goat and blame everything and anything but themselves and play the victim.

So notice how much talk there is about perceived unfairness and injustice and how that must explain for the outcomes. Playing the victim. Right out of the Al Sharpton playbook. Not sure why these trump supporters are so dependent upon playing the victim,but like I said it's a cultural. That is how they function in never taking personal responsibility and they support their candidate in the same manner, never manning up and always making excuses and crying out injustice and unfairness.

That's not making America great. Seem so anti-GOP to bitchh and moan and complain and carry on about unfairness rather than rolling up your sleeves and pulling yourself up by your boot straps. No wonder so many real GOPs don't align with trump, his supporters and their victim mentality

Perhaps, Rudy Giuliani has his own temperament issue and subsequently fails to realize that Trump has the same issue. Unlike GOP primaries, Trump is now facing a drastically different race, the general campaign. Candidate should garner as many votes as possible from undecided or independent voters, but not the night where Trump imploded himself in the 1st Presidential Debate. Trump appeared lacking of discipline, preparation and most importantly, temperament on Monday Night.

Sure, Trump has failed himself miserably but advisers are getting the blames as well. Now Giuliani is contemplating to attack Hillary by bring up Monica Lewinsky in the next debates? Trump camp might get huge hemorrhaging for it and dump extensive women votes more.

Words like "Hillary's too Stupid to be President" may work in the GOP primaries but Trump is running in the general campaign now which seems not as easy as it looks.

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Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

Perhaps this is the truth of the comment. Trump looked unprepared and came unglued because of Giuliani failing to prepare him. Or Giuliani did what he needed to but trump is to dense to absorb what he needs to and too emotional to have the Temperment and stamina to execute the game plan.

Either way Giuliani is looking more and more like a true trump supporter here. It's really a cultural thing of character of those that take personal responsibility and accountability for their lives and those that point the finger, scape goat and blame everything and anything but themselves and play the victim.

So notice how much talk there is about perceived unfairness and injustice and how that must explain for the outcomes. Playing the victim. Right out of the Al Sharpton playbook. Not sure why these trump supporters are so dependent upon playing the victim,but like I said it's a cultural. That is how they function in never taking personal responsibility and they support their candidate in the same manner, never manning up and always making excuses and crying out injustice and unfairness.

That's not making America great. Seem so anti-GOP to bitchh and moan and complain and carry on about unfairness rather than rolling up your sleeves and pulling yourself up by your boot straps. No wonder so many real GOPs don't align with trump, his supporters and their victim mentality

Perhaps, Rudy Giuliani has his own temperament issue and subsequently fails to realize that Trump has the same issue. Unlike GOP primaries, Trump is now facing a drastically different race, the general campaign. Candidate should garner as many votes as possible from undecided or independent voters, but not the night where Trump imploded himself in the 1st Presidential Debate. Trump appeared lacking of discipline, preparation and most importantly, temperament on Monday Night.

Sure, Trump has failed himself miserably but advisers are getting the blames as well. Now Giuliani is contemplating to attack Hillary by bring up Monica Lewinsky in the next debates? Trump camp might get huge hemorrhaging for it and dump extensive women votes more.

Words like "Hillary's too Stupid to be President" may work in the GOP primaries but Trump is running in the general campaign now which seems not as easy as it looks.

Skipster

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Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 1:59 PM ET #15

Quote Originally Posted by Hugh_Jorgan:

Interesting how the whole "temperament" thing has become a big issue.

Trump is a NYer, and as such, tends to express himself in an aggressive manner. This has led the media to paint Trump as having a temperament which is somehow unacceptable, or not safe.

"We can't have a man with that temperament near the nuclear weapons"

Great sound bite, but blatantly false.

There have been a few leaks from people in HRC's past, not to mention an entire book written, which depict HRC as having a horrific temperament. She was painted as being unstable, reactionary, and overly emotional. Predictably, the media has nothing to report on this.

I recognize that HRC appeared to be the candidate who was more in control of their emotions during the debate. I would suggest that Thorazine had something to do with that. (should you need an explanation on Thorazine, you can ask Cheswick).

HRC is a polished politician. Trump is anything but that.

It played out during the debate, and as a result the left rejoices as if they have been proven 'right'.

The only thing proven, as it pertains to temperament, is that HRC is a career politician, and Trump is not.

While I did not get the impression that HRC was a great debater, I did get the impression that Trump sucked at it

one is a professional. one is an amateur. it's simple.

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dl36

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Posted: Sep. 29, 2016 - 2:24 PM ET #16

For me the Temperment thing was brought up by trump himself. And while he did not show a good Temperment at the debate the real issue for me was trump lacking credibility and insight.

For him to think that Temperment was his strong suit was silly as it clearly is not, so why would he bring up such a glaring weak spot for him? Seems like such poor strategy for trump to showcase his obvious weakness rather than his strengths.

Second it is that trump is saying one thing but then doing another. He says wih his words that he has the better Temperment yet becomes unglued under duress pivoting off of every stressful comment into an emotional attack mode. Trump looks like a complete hupocrite and just another liar

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