3 qbs eyes on

Kyler Murray v Rams. He can scuttle and bring em back. Rams have their offensive weapons back. Maybe high scoring affair? Game is Saturday.

Bryce Young has his Carolina Panthers rolling. He might be the best qb going at the moment. So smooth and amazing twitch and touch. Force to be reckoned with. 

Drake Maye. He is hustling and making plays. Chargers disposed of Broncos recently and Harbaugh should have his D on high alert and motivated to keep their chompers on guard. 

Discussion about these matchups is encouraged in this thread here.

Lessgo!

To the top. Good post might be good.

Are you going to bump your own thread every 30 minutes in hopes that someone responds?

@osubucks1

 Yes. What do you think? Is that what you recommend?

Bryce Young is okayish, bucs ML is definitely the parlay builder for me this week.

Best QB going at the moment?  Stupid thing to say.  He had one good game.  

Why anyone would want to touch Kyler Murray right now is beyond me.

1. They are out of the playoffs

2. James Conner is probably out so his safety valve is gone.

3. Looks for Trey McBride and then either tries to outrun everyone or misses throws.

And Bryce Young isn't even top 13 right now.

@Logic123

Some random numbers to look at:

PASS DEFENSE

LAC 2nd WAR     2.4  PS/PLAY .291

LAR 23RD WAR.   .3  PS/PLAY .185

TB 32ND WAR    -.5  PS/PLAY .127

PASS RUSH

LAC 14th WAR   .8  PS/PLAY .134

LAR 6th WAR   1.2  PS/PLAY .164

TB 27th WAR    .1   PS/PLAY .099

RTG against

LAC 12th 89.6

LAR 19th 95.0

TB 24th 97.3

SACK %

LAC 12th 7.1%

LAR 20th 6.0%

TB 17th 6.2%

PRESS %

LAC 20th 34.0%

LAR 14th 34.8%

TB 19th 34.3%

Then you have the QBs

WAR

Young 21st .8

Maye 23rd .5

Murray 12th 1.4

PE/PLAY

Young 21st .118

Maye 26th .097

Murray 14th .154

Sack%

Young 23rd 6.4%

Maye 28th 7.5%

Murray 13th 5.4%

ANY/A

Young 37th 4.6

Maye 31st 5.2

Murray 16th 6.2

Under Pressure:

Young 5th WAR .5

Maye 31st WAR -.1

Murray 10th WAR .1

THEN you have the last 5 games:

WAR

Young 9th .7

Maye 19th .3

Murray 5th .8

Under Pressure:

Young 1st WAR .4

Maye 15th WAR 0.0

Murray 29th WAR -.1

No Pressure:

Under Pressure:

Young 22nd WAR .3

Maye 25th WAR .2

Murray 3rd WAR .8

@Logic123

It depends on how you look at it.  Young was horrible last year and finished with a WAR of -1.3  and Murray finished with a WAR of .9

So, both have improved from last year.  I do not think either one is great or near great.  I think the upside for Maye is higher.  

But you have to look at how each matchup works out.  How the team they are playing does against the pass, how their pass rush is.  

Then you have to look at how the QBs have done and how they have done over, say, the last 5 games.  Then look at how they do with pressure or without pressure.  

Usually, a young QB will not handle pressure well and teams will scheme to put pressure on them, even if they are not normally a pressure defense against other QBs.  However, when you look at it, Maye and Young seem to have improved under pressure BUT Murray has gotten worse.

Of course, you have to consider the teams they have played and will be playing.  Then you have to consider the motivation this late in the season.

Maybe some teams that are eliminated from the playoffs might ¡®experiment¡¯.

But a case can be made that Young might have a good game against a division rival that can be thrown against.  

Maye, even at home against a team coming from the West Coast to shaky weather but with a very good pass defense might be hard to like.

Murray against a fairly hot Rams team is hard to support.

Lol Bryce young is one of the worst QBs in the league I am shocked he¡¯s still playing 

@Raiders22

 Good stuff as usual Raiders22,  After a peruse of all those #'s I am going to try and sum it all up in a short phrase,  "The battles of mediocracy" (or less).

Tough to wager on any result in any of these games with any reasonable degree of confidence IMO.  I'd lean SD cover 4 if I had to, but things get awfully "Back alley sloppy Sally" this time of year.

Good luck to everyone on all your wagers though.

Now thats some amazing work, Raiders. Thank you indeed.

Bryce was terrible. Sat on the bench and did not quit. Comes back and upsets the Cardinals last week. Had Panthers up huge then came Kyler Murray and Zona.

So me claiming Bryce is the hottest qb going. He has speed and legs to move and extend the plays. Tbay just lost to the "ass" Cowboys. Maybe Bryce n co alternate line Tampa and win by 8 so Panthers -7.5 could be a big swinging play. Maybe the Bryce shows enough to salvage his career? Maybe its an entertainment weekend and some of these possible playoff bound teams get tripped up and lose to some crap teams starting this weekend. Texans won their final game of the year against the Colts. Lovie Smiths team did that avoided Bryce as qb. Now as a Texans fan Bryce looks much better than Stroud, ugh.

Bryce and Murray might extend series with their legs and cause em to stay in the game or back door cover?

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Have you watched Drew Lock or Anthony Richardson?

@iceman67

@Logic123

Yessir.  There is that possibility.  

But you always have to be careful with teams this late in the season that may or may not be experimenting or 'giving' up.

But you can also not depend on teams that 'need' to win.

I think you are correct Young has really played a lot better since returning.  Maybe he has decided to 'learn' the game and not just rely on 'being' there.  He seems to be making better reads and safer throws.  He is always a threat to extend the plays.

They could very well cover.  Even though you could make an argument that you might be getting TB on sale after a very disappointing game last week.

The MAJOR way to examine an NFL game nowadays is the QB play and the defense of the QB play.  It is so much a QB-driven league now.

BUT you HAVE to look at other areas of the matchups as well.

As I said above, a case can be made for all 3 QBs and their play right now.  

But you have to consider the time of season and the other parts of the matchups.

The only one that would concern me just on QB play would be the AZ/LAR matchup.  Stafford has more weapons and is hotter.  Even though Murray now has the threat of Harrison to work with.

BOL on whatever you decide.

Drake looks good. Pats keep it close.  Maybe even win.  Frigid temps expected NE.  Will hamper a west coast team on the road. Going to the east. Especially in the 1pm slot. Plus its on saturday.

We are all creatures of habit.  When one thing off to our normal routine it can effect us negatively.  Let alone when its multiple things.

DEAR GOD

@osubucks1

 I dont know about that either.  But panthers are 6-1 ATS last 7 games.  With the lost being as favs.

Not sure which way to go honestly.  Panthers getting 8 points especially when they beat the bucs.  So recently too.  Headscrather for me.

Buc losing to cowboys doesn't instill any confidence in them either. Especially when they need the win to say ahead of falcons.