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ballinonabudget

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Joined: Feb, 2010

Posts: 537

Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 2:05 PM ET #1

I'm between two different trades at the moment and trying to decide which one to do. My current team is as follows:

QB1 Drew Brees

QB2 Ponder/Freeman - Jay Cutler got hurt

WR Aj Green

WR Demaryius

WR Mike Wallace

RB Trent Rich

RB Demarco Murray

TE Fleener/Garrett Graham - Jermichael got hurt

WR/RB Chris Johnson

Bench

- Golden Tate

- Michael Floyd

- Reuben Randle

- Ben Tate

- Stephen Hill

- The other TE of Fleener/Garrett and other QB of Vikes

Now, the Trades I'm considering are:

1) Demaryius Thomas for Desean Jackson and Big Ben

or

2) Mike Wallace for Jake Locker and Brian Hartline

This league starts 2 QBs every week...

Locker has an amazing schedule but bc it's so easy may have a lot of rushing tds to shonne greene if not cj and if that happens I'd miss out on a TD from both him and cj. Though, he has played well in every game he's finished so far. Mike Wallace been bad so far, but now that Gibson is hurt he has already been getting a lot of targets and should continue to get even more including red zone looks. Hartline produces like Mike Wallace somewhat without the potential upside at all though.

On the other side, D Thomas is a beast but he hasn't been getting close to as many red-zone looks as Wes and Julius and with Decker and Moreno there also there is only 1 ball to go around. It seems like the times he's scored have been on screens that he takes it to the house so idk what to think about him going forward in terms of will Peyton pass to him or to everyone else on a given week? He also plays KC twice coming up, Hou, Tenn, and in NE all with good #1 corners. Thing is if Peyton throws him the ball who can really stop him. Though, D Jax has a great schedule coming up and when he blows up he does so in a big way usually and although he gets the number 1 corner each week, he is also the only real great option in the passing game for Philly as opposed to D Thomas on Denver being one of 4-5 options. Big Ben is deise and there OL is all screwed up but theyve been throwing more often and he's definitely better than Ponder/Freeman. Question is, is he better than Locker? I'm sure Leveon will get a lot of GL carries but same goes for Tenn and their RBs.

Any and all thoughts are welcome. Thanks in advance to all who comment. It's appreciated.

Note: I'm currently tied for 1st place and 6 people make playoffs though it's always great to get that bye for week 14. Thanks again.

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FrozenTundra

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Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 2:37 PM ET #2

trade for locker.

Two reasons:

1. D Thomas is a beast, but Djax lives and dies with his QBs, and both are injured or shaky.

2. Wallace is Mr. Inconsistent, get rid of him. If I was the other guy, I wouldn't be making that offer.

Keep ur stud, trade ur dud.

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las8

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Joined: Oct, 2009

Posts: 679

Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 2:41 PM ET #3

The second one.. I am about to leave for lunch so I do not have time to read your comments, but judging by the trade I would do the second one. Tannehill SUCKSSSSS I have Wallace & T. Rich I wish someone would offer me a trade for them. In my league QBs score big so I might be going off of that. Wallace looks good for Locker I see you are getting hartline for free which I guess is better than Rueben Randle. Thomas is a stud. Inconsistent, but not nearly as inconsistent as Wallace. Jackson has not done garbage with no one to throw with him and Big Ben is so bad. My QB is Dalton (Bradford got hurt) I picked up Glennon, but exchanged him for J. Campbell or however it's spelled. He looked good last week. Just my opinion, currently in second place in my league... had 4 players on a bye last week so I started Dalton, Marv Jones, & Bengals D... WENT OFFFFFFF. Good luck to you

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ballinonabudget

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Posts: 537

Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 2:41 PM ET #4

Btw, my leans/plays for this week so far are:

Miami +3 - already locked in - Jets were in a huge letdown spot last week going into Cincy off a HUGE OT Division win vs their rival patriots at home knowing full well that after the game in cincy they'd be coming home to face Rex's brother and the NO Saints in their own house. Forget the score of that one bc the Jets admitted defeat halfway through accepting that they would lose that one. Dalton threw for a career high TDs and is now coming off 4 straight wins - a huge one at home vs the Pats (I think when they were undefeated), then on the road in Buffalo in OT (by 3), then on the road in Detroit at the last second (by 3), and now over the Jets. Cincy is a different team at home while on the road they are 2-2 losing to the bears and browns and winning the 2 by only 3 points each. Now they travel to Miami on a short week for a Halloween game (where I'm sure they'd like to be home) sitting pretty at 6-2 with a HUGE DIVISON ROAD GAME on deck in Division Rival Baltimore after this one in Miami. For Miami, they look the complete opposite while the Bengals are sitting on top of the thrown in terms of public appearance right now. Miami is coming off 4 straight losses, 2 of which they were in and blew against Buffalo and NE. They are 1-2 at home with both losses being by 3 or less and though the game in NE was always going to be a tough on after the depressing loss to Buffalo that they blew because of bad play-calling and knowing they had a home TNF game coming up, now they are in a Must Win getting 3 points at home (great line value) against a team that has not won by more than 3 on the road all season. This should be more of a defensive battle and I also know that although Sunday Dolphins home games aren't that crazy in terms of the fans, people get much more rowdy for Night Games in Miami and I expect there to be tons of people getting loud for this one. Dolphins are still in the hunt for a wild card spot and if Tannehill just holds on to the ball they should have a chance for the W in this one. I also kind of like that Martin is out and everyone is making a big deal about it when he's been playing terrible all year and the Phins just traded for Mckinnie to take his place at LT. They shifted him to RT bc Clabo was playing bad too but now Clabo is getting a shot to get his job back so I see him giving some extra effort today. It will be a tough, smashmouth game, but 3 points for a home dog in a good spot with the other team in a bad spot on a short week traveling before a division b2b road game looks good to me. Doesn't hurt that looks like tons of action is coming in on the road favorite.

Jets +6 (This will be a play, I'm just hoping/waiting to see if it gets to 6.5, so I can buy to 7 (or if goes to 7 even better lol). Waiting it out because numbers show tons of people on Saints)

Redskins +1 (hopefully goes up too but well see) - I think we're getting a lot of value on the Redskins because they've played horrible so far this year starting out 2-5. If they'd of been even 50% this year then they'd 100% be favorites in a home game. Yes, San Diego is coming off a bye, but they are above .500 and have had a soft schedule recently playing at Oak, Indy at home on a game Indy was in a tough spot playing Peyton the next game, and the Jags. Now they travel out East to face the lowly 2-5 Skins before coming back home to host who else, but the Division Leading Denver Broncos in a huge game for San Diego. The Redskins have been playing better since the bye and Alfred Morris has been running really well recently. Redskins are also coming off a game vs those same Super Bowl contender Broncos in Denver after a tough home win vs chicago and NEED THIS ONE BAD. They actually were looking good in that Broncos game until after Denver came back to tie it at 21, they shanked a punt (28-21), fumbled (31-21), and then threw an interception (38-21), and another interception to basically end it. This one is a much bigger game for Washington at 2-5 and still with a chance to possibly even come back to win their division than for the Chargers who even though they are off a bye, may have took some time over that extra week to start game-planning for a much bigger division game next week against Peyton Manning. Just feel there's some value on the Skins who people have probably given up on after not covering last week a DD spread when up 14 going into half. Just a lean for now though.

Steelers +7 (I locked it in already but mainly because I got a key # - I may lay off some because as of now it's just a lean, but as we get closer to Sunday I will see whether I will just keep it locked in or add some to it) - so far it's dropped to 6 so I'm looking like I locked it in at the right time regardless of what I do - I'll go into reasoning later and may make another separate thread for that

Tennessee -3 (right now at 2.5 at my book) - I locked this in at 3 thinking it would go to 3.5 after the Rams Seahawks game bc Stacy was getting x-rays. There's something about this one that sketches me out though because a lot of people seem to also like the Titans. Titans have played maybe one of the hardest schedules I've seen for the type of team they have (running) - Especially in the last 3 weeks before the bye playing KC, in Sea, and then SF. Before those 3 losses they were sitting pretty at 3-1 with their only loss being in Houston in OT in the 2nd game of the season. Their defense is way underrated and they are coming off the bye w Jake Locker now healthy and with a game under his belt before the bye to get back in the flow. I honestly wish I didnt take the -3 and just hopped on the ML at -140 because something tells me these points may come into play in what should be more of a running clock moving type game. I like that stat about teams playing a game after playing Seattle for this one working in the Titans favor though and I also like that St Louis is on a short week on top of that. St. Louis has also been terrible against the run and the OL of the Titans should be able to create some holes with a week of rest and St. Louis coming off a battle that they lost in depressing fashion. Seattle was moving the ball on the ground and for some reason barely called any running plays even getting stuffed at the GL twice calling 2 b2b QB sneaks which made no sense. We'll see what I end up doing with this one.

Thoughts are welcome folks. GL

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Btw, my leans/plays for this week so far are:

Miami +3 - already locked in - Jets were in a huge letdown spot last week going into Cincy off a HUGE OT Division win vs their rival patriots at home knowing full well that after the game in cincy they'd be coming home to face Rex's brother and the NO Saints in their own house. Forget the score of that one bc the Jets admitted defeat halfway through accepting that they would lose that one. Dalton threw for a career high TDs and is now coming off 4 straight wins - a huge one at home vs the Pats (I think when they were undefeated), then on the road in Buffalo in OT (by 3), then on the road in Detroit at the last second (by 3), and now over the Jets. Cincy is a different team at home while on the road they are 2-2 losing to the bears and browns and winning the 2 by only 3 points each. Now they travel to Miami on a short week for a Halloween game (where I'm sure they'd like to be home) sitting pretty at 6-2 with a HUGE DIVISON ROAD GAME on deck in Division Rival Baltimore after this one in Miami. For Miami, they look the complete opposite while the Bengals are sitting on top of the thrown in terms of public appearance right now. Miami is coming off 4 straight losses, 2 of which they were in and blew against Buffalo and NE. They are 1-2 at home with both losses being by 3 or less and though the game in NE was always going to be a tough on after the depressing loss to Buffalo that they blew because of bad play-calling and knowing they had a home TNF game coming up, now they are in a Must Win getting 3 points at home (great line value) against a team that has not won by more than 3 on the road all season. This should be more of a defensive battle and I also know that although Sunday Dolphins home games aren't that crazy in terms of the fans, people get much more rowdy for Night Games in Miami and I expect there to be tons of people getting loud for this one. Dolphins are still in the hunt for a wild card spot and if Tannehill just holds on to the ball they should have a chance for the W in this one. I also kind of like that Martin is out and everyone is making a big deal about it when he's been playing terrible all year and the Phins just traded for Mckinnie to take his place at LT. They shifted him to RT bc Clabo was playing bad too but now Clabo is getting a shot to get his job back so I see him giving some extra effort today. It will be a tough, smashmouth game, but 3 points for a home dog in a good spot with the other team in a bad spot on a short week traveling before a division b2b road game looks good to me. Doesn't hurt that looks like tons of action is coming in on the road favorite.

Jets +6 (This will be a play, I'm just hoping/waiting to see if it gets to 6.5, so I can buy to 7 (or if goes to 7 even better lol). Waiting it out because numbers show tons of people on Saints)

Redskins +1 (hopefully goes up too but well see) - I think we're getting a lot of value on the Redskins because they've played horrible so far this year starting out 2-5. If they'd of been even 50% this year then they'd 100% be favorites in a home game. Yes, San Diego is coming off a bye, but they are above .500 and have had a soft schedule recently playing at Oak, Indy at home on a game Indy was in a tough spot playing Peyton the next game, and the Jags. Now they travel out East to face the lowly 2-5 Skins before coming back home to host who else, but the Division Leading Denver Broncos in a huge game for San Diego. The Redskins have been playing better since the bye and Alfred Morris has been running really well recently. Redskins are also coming off a game vs those same Super Bowl contender Broncos in Denver after a tough home win vs chicago and NEED THIS ONE BAD. They actually were looking good in that Broncos game until after Denver came back to tie it at 21, they shanked a punt (28-21), fumbled (31-21), and then threw an interception (38-21), and another interception to basically end it. This one is a much bigger game for Washington at 2-5 and still with a chance to possibly even come back to win their division than for the Chargers who even though they are off a bye, may have took some time over that extra week to start game-planning for a much bigger division game next week against Peyton Manning. Just feel there's some value on the Skins who people have probably given up on after not covering last week a DD spread when up 14 going into half. Just a lean for now though.

Steelers +7 (I locked it in already but mainly because I got a key # - I may lay off some because as of now it's just a lean, but as we get closer to Sunday I will see whether I will just keep it locked in or add some to it) - so far it's dropped to 6 so I'm looking like I locked it in at the right time regardless of what I do - I'll go into reasoning later and may make another separate thread for that

Tennessee -3 (right now at 2.5 at my book) - I locked this in at 3 thinking it would go to 3.5 after the Rams Seahawks game bc Stacy was getting x-rays. There's something about this one that sketches me out though because a lot of people seem to also like the Titans. Titans have played maybe one of the hardest schedules I've seen for the type of team they have (running) - Especially in the last 3 weeks before the bye playing KC, in Sea, and then SF. Before those 3 losses they were sitting pretty at 3-1 with their only loss being in Houston in OT in the 2nd game of the season. Their defense is way underrated and they are coming off the bye w Jake Locker now healthy and with a game under his belt before the bye to get back in the flow. I honestly wish I didnt take the -3 and just hopped on the ML at -140 because something tells me these points may come into play in what should be more of a running clock moving type game. I like that stat about teams playing a game after playing Seattle for this one working in the Titans favor though and I also like that St Louis is on a short week on top of that. St. Louis has also been terrible against the run and the OL of the Titans should be able to create some holes with a week of rest and St. Louis coming off a battle that they lost in depressing fashion. Seattle was moving the ball on the ground and for some reason barely called any running plays even getting stuffed at the GL twice calling 2 b2b QB sneaks which made no sense. We'll see what I end up doing with this one.

Thoughts are welcome folks. GL

Fredy_Bruschi

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Joined: Oct, 2013

Posts: 161

Posted: Oct. 31, 2013 - 2:45 PM ET #5

Trade Wallace. Locker is healthy and Hartline has better numbers than Wallace this year pretty much across the board. Look it up.

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