What would you guys do?

So I have been playing with this local for about eight months and I have lost around $120,000. I was down about 10,000 this week and told my guy that I wanted to put 20,000 on Washington last night. He told me he could take the bed but then he told me I needed to post and I said I just got back in town and do you want me to meet you to give you 20,000 upfront after IĄ¯ve paid you 120,000 over the last half of a year? I said you can hold onto my watch thatĄ¯s worth 20,000 basically he told me he couldnĄ¯t and then he said he called the main guy and he said no. I told him that is complete and utter fucking bullshit. They always brag about taking any bet and heĄ¯s going to break my balls? If I ignore him calling me today to collect, what will happen?   I obviously have too much to lose but this group of people act like professionals and they act like they have a team to take care of people who donĄ¯t pay. I am fucking pissed. I believe I have every right to be as I should be collecting finally but instead IĄ¯m in this boat. I kept telling him that itĄ¯s on my head not his so just put the fucking bet in.    Thanks for your advice in advance.  

One things for sure, I am now completely turned off from sports betting.  I will never ever use a local again and the offshore thing just doesnĄ¯t appeal to me.  

Your main issue is that you literally need them because you are a gambling addict and your bookie provides your fix. That right there puts you at a disadvantage. They know you have a major problem because they have 120k of your money.

You owed him 10k, and then they said no to a 20k bet. Did you ask if they would take a 10k bet?

Regardless, you're fucked because you will pay them so you can continue to get your drug of choice which is action. You won't stiff them unless you have another book to take your action.

Best advice you will get within this thread is this ... get some help for your gambling addiction.

PS; Spare me the story of how much money you have. You have a problem. Good luck

@Hugh_Jorgan

 I guess you didnĄ¯t read the part of me not caring about betting anymore.   I donĄ¯t need them for a fix.  I can get another local bookie rather easily so you are lost in space on that one I guess.   They arenĄ¯t the only game in town.  Did ya ever consider that?   If your gay porn dealer dies, IĄ¯m sure you have a backup Hugh.    Spare you the story of my money?    Man youĄ¯ve really had a shitty life eh?   My Ą°gambling problemĄą is done. I have zero Desire and after they pulled this,  IĄ¯m not into it anymore.  
so you can give solid advice based on facts or you arenĄ¯t yelling at all.   Glad I reached out to this loving community.   Is this the bs you guys deal with when asking questions? Christ. You need to expand your mind a little.  Maybe you live in a one bookie town.   I do not.   But IĄ¯m not going to be placing bets anymore.   Done with it.   

@phishphan74

 Helping not yelling.   Voice text error.   

@Hugh_Jorgan

 All bullshit aside, If I donĄ¯t pay them and tell them I am done,  what can they do?

they donĄ¯t deserve to be paid.  I am serious when I tell you I am done with betting.  ItĄ¯s not a problem to quit. I feel like they would stoop down to any level to strong arm ppl to pay them even when itĄ¯s unfair.   But I paid them in checks because I never had cash.  So I guess I could turn them in if they fuck with me.   This is why IĄ¯m asking you guys.   This is your specialty.  I am a rookie with this stuff.  

No, you are not a rookie at this.  You posted almost this exact same thing back in April.  Remember your Bentley and mansion?

/forum/general-discussion-35/can-you-guys-give-me-your-opinionadvice-103524265

You either don't learn, or you are full of sh-t. But it is Covers problem for not helping you out of your jam?

I just realized that you're a Phish "phan", and for this reason, I hope this all ends horribly for you. I hope you get caught is sort of dragnet, lose everything, and your kids are sold into sex slavery. I was ready to call bull on your entire story until I realized that you are a Phish fan. Those dirty, smelly hippies are always well off. Trustafarians is what my buddy calls them.

Don't pay by them. Hopefully someone smashes your teeth in. Hopefully the chick from the original story sues you for sexual harassment. Gay porn dealer? That's the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Is it you that is really into gay porn? Is this the reason you're a single dad? It's totally ok to be into gay porn. However, it's not ok to be a piece of shit like you.

p.s. I love how multiple times you mention not having an addiction or being done with gambling in the very same paragraph as mentioning how you have other options to play with. You're a born loser. Keep playing. The money is better off with the bookies.

Blood on the ground , donĄ¯t conceal what youĄ¯re telling

blood on your mouth plus the chrome wheels of the Bentley

a sobering cut , the rush , so fleeting yet deadly

theyĄ¯ll say Ą° close it up Ą° as your own mother is tearing so gently

weirdly and eloquently 

youĄ¯ve formulated some prose

that the Pros know your little shoulders canĄ¯t hold

littered with jokes , the punchline your assshole

the finger trigger explodes your butthole twice the size , itĄ¯s not what you planned foĄ¯

TheyĄ¯ll cut off your hands Bro 

good luck wiping the sphincter

Christ !! is this your life ? Self righteous turned sinisterĄ­Ą­..

@thorpe

 Dejavu

@StumpTownStu

That was fuckin great!

Well I think Hugh Jordan was trying to give you an honest opinion, no reason to imply he's gay.

It's easy to say we are finished, I think we all have a few times. Not so easy to actually quit.

It sounds like you don't want to pay. If you don't, I seriously doubt they do anything but who knows. I imagine they will just eat the 10k which is the reason he didn't take another 20k on the cuff. Then he would be eating 30k.

He did what he could, he asked above him and the answer was no. I think it's a lot to expect them to take a 20k bet on the cuff regardless of how much you have lost and paid.

I would assume all the bookies in your town have a relationship, probably working for a lot of the same people. It might not be as easy as you think to skip out on one and just go to another. 

@phishphan74

 Sure itĄ¯s not a problem ?? you sound like a crack head trying to convince themselves they donĄ¯t have a problem.   Your dealer wouldnĄ¯t cuff you a fix and you got butt hurt and now what to stiff them? It sounds like he knew you couldnĄ¯t be trusted period. 

@phishphan74

 You pay your bookie with checks?

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Im sure this is bullshyt but if not, as a former collector for 400-600 operation in Milwaukee we went to extreme lengths to collect money including using family members as a nudge.

We always tried payment plans first. Only gets ugly when you we knew the person had no intention of paying. Hope this helps.

THIS